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movie with best depiction of schizophrenia?


dont really know many to be honest and was just wondering..
any ideas?

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a beautiful mind was not bad,its a hard thing to portray.me,myself and irene was probably not a good depiction funny as hell though

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A Beautiful Mind is about Schizophrenia, not MPD. He was never those characters he thought he saw and heard- he just talked to them and interacted with them.

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12 monkeys or Back to the Future

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This is dead on to a guy I know- when he's on his meds, he explains what he hears, how it is... when his meds need adjustment, he starts to hear voices again, but only in things that make white noise- like he told me once the air conditioner was talking to him because his meds weren't working right. When he's boarder line, he's able to ignore the voices... once he starts really spiraling down again, he loses that ability to reason.

I'm friends with his sister. She couldn't finish watching this movie, she was in hysterics because it was so dead on to what she saw her brother go through. Not for nothing, I'm watching it now, and it is REALLY hard for me to watch because of him, and because of a friend of mine I had taken in and watched decline like that who was also a schizophrenic... That hopless feeling just watching and not being able to do anything... knowing if you could get someone that bit of help, and if they were a little saner, they'd want that apartment, want to be on their feet-

But they don't go for it, because they're mentally unsound, and can't make the decisions for themselves that would lead to them improving their lives...

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sounds tough i wish your friend well

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My cousin committed suicide off his meds over this. Hard to portray in a movie as it affects everyone different and in different ways. In the case of The Soloist, not being on meds is horrible for him.

Problem is it's a Catch-22. The meds have unpleasant side-effects and you have to take them. But when you're normal, you feel you don't need them, and when you stop and get "crazy" again, it's hard to get back on them.

SO the answer is that there isn't a "best" movie. You're better off finding a book.





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I could be completely wrong, but I don't think A History of Violence had anything to do with mental issues.

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Perhaps not at first glance, but it depends on how you look at its protagonist's descent into violence and difficulty in maintaining relationships (paralleled by his son's adoption of violence at school - is the 'disease' spread by nature or nurture?) and whether you take the latter half of the film(where Mortensen's character pays a visit to William Hurt), with its all-too-easy 'mob' stereotypes, as a fantasy scenario or not - a break from reality or a form of wish fulfillment. It's arguably a quite complex and ambiguous psychological thriller masquerading as a much more straightforward thriller.

I also neglected to mention Cronenberg's SPIDER, which was shown again on British telly a few nights ago - or DEAD RINGERS.

'What does it matter what you say about people?'
Touch of Evil (Orson Welles, 1958).

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I don't think you're quite getting the gist of what I was saying: I was saying that it was the exact opposite of an exploration of pop psychology (thanks to its layers of ambiguity) rather than an example of that trend. In other words, we both agree that there were no 'pop profiles' or examples of pop psychology - we're just approaching the film from different angles.

'What does it matter what you say about people?'
Touch of Evil (Orson Welles, 1958).

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AHOV comes froma graphic novel and was never intended to be anything but a story....... i think your trying to aplly mental health issues to it is off base.

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Well, all stories have themes and subtexts: without a theme or content of some kind, a story has no meaning and is nothing more than an empty vessel, an exercise in form that has nothing to communicate - in film terms, that would equate to a flashy Hollywood blockbuster. (Unless you're saying that A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE is 'just a story' in the sense that like a flashy Hollywood blockbuster it privileges style over substance, which is a criticism that was levelled against the film when it came out and is a common criticism of films based on graphic novels.)

However, when all is said and done, it's not worth arguing about - we just have different interpretations of it :) It's no big thing.

'What does it matter what you say about people?'
Touch of Evil (Orson Welles, 1958).

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i think its a metaphor against/about violence
since its urealsitic that somone could fight like that in real life........

I'm just trying to do this jig-saw puzzle
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Das Weisse Rauschen (the white noise) a German film with Daniel Bruhl is a very shocking but realistic insight into Schizophrenia. You should check it out.

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When something is just a story, there's always a theme. A good story engages people. A good story can be a powerful thing.

"A History of Violence" shows the tragedy violence brings ~ and how it can become generational. It has nothing to do with mental illness, imho. Violence is a psychological disorder and/or a response to one's environment. It doesn't always involve mental illness.

I think you're over-analyzing in this case ~ reading more into the film than what's there, and what most audiences see. Just a thought.

I had a hard time watching this film ~ maybe because it was such a window into the life of someone with severe mental illness.

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I think this is the best portrayal I've ever seen of a portrayal of schizophrenia. I also think it's right up there in all portrayals of mental illness, period. But I have two more to put on that short list:

-Pi. Also crosses that thin grey line between genius and madness. Not schizophrenia, obviously, but still someone losing their grip on reality and slipping into madness.

-Rainman. Now hear me out, I'm not saying that people who suffer from autism are just like people who suffer from schizophrenia, nor am I saying that all forms of mental illness and disabilities are the same. I'm simply saying that as far as a portrayal of an individual who suffers from a psychiatric disorder, Dustin Hoffman's gotta be at the top, no?

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I know it's been said...But the best Depiction of schizophrenia I've seen is CLEAN SHAVEN. A great but very disturbing film.

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I thought this was a very good depiction of schizophrenia. I especially liked the early aerial shot of the highway with the (cell phone?) conversations. The jumble of voices is very much like the schizophrenic mind. The symbolism was perfect and continued with the other aerial shots

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Clean, Shaven was awesome, really disturbing. You might also like Spider, though I am not sure what the main character's diagnosis was.





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Here's a good one... 'Frances' (1982) Jessica Lange as Frances Farmer, the actress. Ms. Farmer underwent a periorbital lobotomy and reportedly was terribly abused at a State run hospital for the mentally ill.

Heartrending portrayal of mental illness.

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I don't know about everything you are looking for, but Russell Crowe as far as acting is concerned did a tremendous job. My aunt works with people with schizophrenia, and as far as the way they talk, look (facial expressions and what not), she thought he was right on the money. In fact, true story, she actually thought they had hired someone with schizophrenia to play the role (she doesn't stay up on movies, so she wasn't aware of Crowe). I think Foxx's portrayal is maybe even slightly better, though.

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This film is really the best depiction I've ever seen in a movie, as it did really remind me of folks who I've worked with who live with schizophrenia.

What's really sad to me about this film is that it didn't get the recognition it really deserved for that depiction--in every other film where someone plays a person with mental health issues or a disability of some sort, that person gets an Oscar nomination. This film, which actually portrays schizophrenia in a riveting, dramatic, AND plausible way has gotten no such acclaim. It's a shame. And the film itself is so well done; it really is one of the best movies of 2009, and it was totally sabotaged by its distributors.

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Were you responding directly to mine? I didn't use the word "disturbing." That's a really loaded word in relation to schizophrenia, and I certainly wouldn't use it in describing the portrayal in this movie.

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I do get what you're saying, and I agree to an extent, BUT the symptoms of Schyzophrenia are most definitively disturbing for both the patient and those around them, and to be even diagnosed with the illness a person must persist in such symtoms for over six months, otherwise it can be from a brief psychotic disorder to schizophreniform disorder, which does not constitute schyzophrenia. A vivid dream during a fever is just that. I have met someone with schyzophrenia (which unfortunately was also deaf, so the interaction with him was a bit more complex) and it was not easy, and I really felt for his family, and for him. Hollywood usually depicts any sort of mental illness with pretty people in distress, never really grasping how much a person is completely affected and crippled by their illness. I thought this movie did a great job with that.

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Yes, I do, I've studied it.

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