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Brian Lamb interviews Robert Spencer (about I:WTWNTK)


If anyone wants to know more about Rober Spencer and this documentary, this interview might enlighten.

http://www.q-and-a.org/Transcript/?ProgramID=1086

I've read the whole interview and I belive him. I've looked at the passages he quotes from the Koran, and they are real.

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no doubt those verses are real. hav u bothered to read those verses in context with wats before and after it??? if islam is so intolerant to non-muslims, why are muslims are allowed to marry the people of the book??? why then were christians free to live and practice their religion after muslims had conquested their city???


"On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. (The Noble Quran, 5:32)"

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First of all, Muslim Men are free to marry whoever they want, because they're the head of household in Islam, and it's required that the head of household be a Muslim. For this same reason, Muslim women are only allowed to marry Muslim men. Islam works this concept out on a global scale too, as in no Muslim is to EVER,EVER be subjugated to a non-Muslim, which is a large factor in why Palestine wants to blow Isreal off the map. In addition, there is NO separation of church and state in Islam, and no true freedom of religion. I don't know if you've ever heard of the term "Dhimmi", but if you're a non-Muslim living in a land conquered by Muslims, that's what you are. It means that you're required to pay a tax for being a non-Muslim, and if you don't like that, you die. I've several translations of the Koran, because I'm slightly OCD when it comes to objective, first-hand research of such things and all of them said the same damn thing, in Arabic and English. Those so-called Muslims who aren't setting out to destroy civilization ,and plotting to kill us, are not really practicing their religion the way it was meant to be practiced. Thank goodness for that.

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Those so-called Muslims who aren't setting out to destroy civilization ,and plotting to kill us, are not really practicing their religion the way it was meant to be practiced. Thank goodness for that.
Exactly! That's what many of us have been saying for a long time. Spread the word.


THE END OF ISLAM IS THE BEGINNING OF REASONABLE PEACE.

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I try to do my part bit by bit. Shocking truth like this must be given in blunt, but small doses, at least that's my philosophy. BTW, Minor, you rock! I'm so glad there's another soldier in the fight against this brutal, inhuman, monstrous ideology. I also pray for those Muslims everyday who are brainwashed and don't know any better, that they may get out before they destroy themselves and the rest of humanity.

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Thank you, Rosie!

It just takes a moment of our time to remind others of the importance of freedom and the struggle against any ideology that opposes it.

Islam and Freedom are opposites, and the world must know of the facts. My words, your words, or the words of anyone else shouldn't make the difference. The facts against Islam should do that just fine. So that's what I and others try to do -- expose the facts about Islam. But more support is always needed. All it takes is for others to copy the links provided on this board and post those links elsewhere.

Thank you for understanding and supporting this. I'm not here to harm anyone in any way, but I will expose the truth against Islam wherever it is required.

Bye!

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Those so-called Muslims who aren't setting out to destroy civilization ,and plotting to kill us, are not really practicing their religion the way it was meant to be practiced. Thank goodness for that.
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Is it okay with you if they, in their delusional state, continue to practice their not-setting-out-to-destroy-civilization-and-kill-all-us-Americans religion and call it Islam?

I'm sure the hundreds of millions of deluded false-Muslims out there (not authentic, since they're not plotting to kill us) would appreciate some lady in the USA telling them what their religion is about.

Why dont you fly to our NATO ally, Turkey, and start knocking on doors to spread the word?

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exactly.

unless the western powers plan to kill them (see my thread on the subject) all or convert them all, this program of condemning them all & their religion - seems like a non-starter.

what do those of you who think, as the producers of this film, that such a wholesale (and historically obtuse) dismissal of all islamic thought & culture and islamic peoples is called for, propose as a plan of action? there are not a lot of options:

a] mass expulsion (unconstitutional)
b] mass conversion (inquisition)
c] mass extermination ('final' 'solution')
d] ???

in my view, this is nothing more than an apologia for nativism & isolationism - which just kicks the can for global wars of intolerance down the road 50 years or so.

we either continue to engage & learn to integrate disparate cultures humanely, adeptly, constructively - or we build walls and throw bombs.

pat buchanan's view of the world is dark, neo-racist, impracticable. his fingerprints are all over this doc.

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we either continue to engage & learn to integrate disparate cultures humanely, adeptly, constructively - or we build walls and throw bombs.
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Islam is not interested in humane, adept and constructive integration, Islam sleeps until it is strong and when it is strong it wields it's power.

I am led to assume you are saying in a roundabout and non-confrontational way that we must build walls and throw bombs. That's an interesting point of view and one which may go some way to explain the current US intrigues in the Middle East.

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one of the great fictions of history is that israel has never had any choices, or forks in the road open to options other than confrontational pre-emptive militarism

do some research on what was going on in Israel vis a vis egypt, syria, lebanon & jordan in the fifties - the accomodationist and bridge-builder pm sharett was defrauded and sabotaged by a lying and vicious ben-gurion and his henchmen, dayan & scheinerman (renamed sharon by ben-gurion), who conducted small provocations to actual invasions whenever the prospect of accomodation (and a limit to expansion only possible via armed conflict) came into view during sharatt's brief tenure. this is when the die was cast for the future.

there was an alternative destiny for an israel within its original borders and at peace with their neighbors. this was consciously & specifically rejected by ben-gurion & his successors.

but give these hard men credit - their long-game was for a greater israel, demographics notwithstanding, and that is the path israel embarked upon and has consistently pursued, with great success & much death & destruction, mainly to others & their occupied and greatly beleaguered native populace, ever since.

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