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What is the 'Endless Eight'?


I ask this question seriously. I keep hearing about the "Endless Eight" but whenever I try to find out was it is, all I can find is opinions. Can anybody explain to me (calmly and rationally) what exactly is this story arc?




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It's an arc where the SOS Brigade repeats the same two weeks of summer 15532 times, with only a few minor details changing each time, like swimsuits or yukatas. It all ended when Kyon decided to stop procrastinating and do his homework with Haruhi.

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OK. Thank you very much.

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To some...it is torture.

To others...it is brilliant.

To you...only you can say.

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OK this post is three years old so who knows--but really, you should put that last bit in spoilers. The one thing that tends to get viewers through this torturous arc is trying to find little clues in each episode to determine just what the thing is that must be done to break the loop. There is of course a giant red herring introduced on the rooftop while stargazing, and teased at near the end of most of the episodes. Learning what the actual secret is to ending the loop before one has suffered through all eight episodes just makes them unbearable. I know because I made that mistake half-way through by reading the Wikipedia page.

Then again at least I wasn't angrily disappointed like everyone else when I finally did get to the end.

I feel like this radical experiment in pushing the boundaries of watchable entertainment could have been done better. There was a lot here they could have worked with, but after really and truly going for it with eight episodes of the same friggin thing, the resolution just felt horribly flat. To me, anyway.
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Kyoto Animation wasn't just screwing with people for the sake of trolling. They had to have a second season so that they could show bamboo leaf rhapsody, which in turn was necessary for the planned release of the Disappearance movie.

Acquiring time slots for tv shows can be complicated. They needed to fill a 28 episode programming block, and they were running out of source material to use that had taken place prior to 'The Disappearance,' which had always been planned as a movie. Even with re-airing the original 14 episode series included, the only story stuff they had to work with was Endless 8 and a large amount of episodes that they still needed to animate.

So that's what they did, and Endless 8 was born. Because of all the time they had, they were even able to throw in hints for what was to come with the Disappearance arc. Seems like a solid plan. Killing three birds with one stone (setting up disappearance, filling the time slot, and telling the Endless 8 story).

Of course it ultimately was a failure. A unique and risky move that just did not work for them. But the point is that I definitely don't think that Kyoto Animation actually intended to piss off fans or screw with them for laughs.

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Its a waste of eight episodes.






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I agree with Atheist Revolution. I think the "endless eight" story arc could have (and should have) been resolved in just three episdoes.

Episode one (of the "endless eight" plot) would be exactly the same as it is, with the SOS Brigade going through the last two weeks of summer, with no indication of anything wrong or strange going on.

Episode two would also be unchanged, with the characters doing the same things, and Kyon getting strange feelings of deja vu, then getting called in the night by Mikuru and being told by the other members that they've been re-living the last two weeks of summer more than fifteen thousand times. They spend the rest of summer doing their activities not knowing what to do to break the endless loop, then summer ends with Haruhi saying they have one day of summer left but that they've done all the activities and everyone can have a free day, and then leaving the restaraunt, and Kyon wanting to stop her but not knowing how.

Episode three should have been the episode that ends with Kyon stopping Haruhi from leaving and telling everyone they should all come to his house and do homework together, and by doing so break out of the loop.

Instead, we get episode after episode after episode after episode where the group spend the two weeks doing more or less the same things again and again and again, and in all but the first Koizumi, Mikuru and Yuki give Kyon THE SAME DAMN STORY about how they're re-living the last two weeks of summer over and over again. After about three or four episodes of this you'll want to beat your head against a wall.

I really can't help wondering if the Japanese producers told the writers they had to come up with scripts for fourteen episdoes and the writers were really low on ideas so they came up with a cop-out way of taking one episode and just repeating it eight times. That's really the only explanation I can think of.

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My theory is that after they finished preparing a second season containing "Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody," "Endless Eight," "The Sigh of Haruhi," and "The Disappearance of Haruhi," some executive decided to make money with the "Disappearance" episodes by combining them into a theatrical movie, leaving the writers and animators to try and fill seven empty TV slots with padding.

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It is something anime fans can use as a means of proving their commitment to anime. Anyone that has the willpower to endure the entirety of the endless eight, is truly committed to the artform.

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