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WTF was that on the end of episode 6?

posted 15 years ago by Mithrandir24
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Did John become Jesus?
Stranger thing i've ever seen. Can someone explain to me what just happened there?

"Now I order the two of you to make OUT in order to make UP!!! []" - AG from Alias MB

[–] ActualSighs 15 years ago

On the DVD, series creator David Milch explains John's monologue. The explanation takes is over 10 minutes long and would be way too complicated to post in detail here if I remembered all of it! Suffice it to say that John's monologue explains in his roundabout way what has happened and what will happen in the show and mentions more than once that no one present will remember what he said in it.

[–] Mithrandir24 15 years ago

Frellin' crazy! Thanks.

"Now I order the two of you to make OUT in order to make UP!!! []" - AG from Alias MB

[–] b_ryan_81 15 years ago

I remember it being something about how primitive man originally began to communicate with each other. I remember some line about "the wall" or "on my fathers wall" or something like that. It was regarding cromagnons drawing pictures on walls in caves to communicate. But, thats only one explanation to one line. the *beep* good luck with that.
I love the show, would give my pinkie for another season, but as far as explanations go.....

[–] dlancer 15 years ago

I don't think it was meant to be understood. It's emptiness was meant to force the viewer to create his/her own message from the monologue (for the most part). That is why the show failed. It had too much emptiness. People will go on and on about how spiritual the series was, but the spirituality was a substitution for substance.

Long live the Fighters!

[–] brianpritchard 15 years ago

I STRONGLY disagree that the dream sequence dialogue from John was meaningless. It's a little hard to follow but not that bad once you pick up on how John communicates. Also, as a previous poster mentioned, Milch explains it on the DVD but it is quite complicated and I don't remember a ton of detail.

Another poster here was on the right track though in talking about means of communication. He was drawing a parable between primitive man drawing on caves to communicate and how this development was "big" in the development of civilization, eventually connecting to 9/11 was big and Cass and her camera and how the internet is "big". Not that hard to infer that he's talking about the internet being the modern day cave drawing (albeit with a much larger audience).

I get the impression that the people John "worked for" for lack of a better term, where not neccessarily going to help our planet (although they certainly have an affinity for washed-up surfers and broken lives). Not all the towelheads were erradicated doesn't refer to Arab's in particular I'm sure but who the intended target may have been for John's people is hard to figure out from the 10 episodes.

So much mystery...

[–] tinoynk 13 years ago

towelheads

Classy dude.

[–] brianpritchard 13 years ago

I REALLY hope you understand that I was making a direct quote from the scene in question here...not just randomly throwing out racial slurs! :)

Come on now...have you even watched the show??

[–] InkedInBlood 8 years ago

Dumbass.

I don't like the way blood money spends.

[–] udkyle 14 years ago

The cliff notes version of it is that he explains the communalism spirituality that the show is about. That we're all connected through our interactions with each other and if we understand how those interactions affect each other, we can create a better existence.

If you break down the speech, you can get some insight into all the different characters he mentions, but the two most important parts of the speech is he explains the deterioration of the Mitch/Cissy relationship and the reaction and chain of events that occurred that have led to so much misery for so many people (Mitch wipes Cissy out, Cissy shows Butchie how to do that. Cissy wipes Butchie out. Butchie hurts Barry's head. Mr. Rollins comes in Barry's face).

And then he explains how Cass is essentially going to be the vessel/prophet through which he conveys his message. That's what the Cass's Camera bit is about. She's going to document and show this path to redemption to the world through her work with John. It's essentially going to be the creation of a new bible (although they don't specifically reference any particular religion...so while there's a lot of comparison you can make to Christianity or Judaism, this show isn't specifically stated to be denominational).