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What did the trainer do wrong?


What i mean is why did the kid fire him? He told him to stay away and the kid ignored him and got 'beat' and in turn the trainer gets fired???

Maybe if the trainer had told him to go toe to toe with a guy who relies on knockouts i could see an issue but the trainer knew what he was talkin about and the kid ignored him............





"Who has got the time, I'm all ready busy doing nothing"

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huh?

the kid fired him because he began to respect the younger Jerry F, more than the old trainer who, as the kid learned, was just using jerry all the while. And, the kid watched jerry fight and work his way up to one step before the olympics..and learned more from him than the old guy..

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Who cares if he was using Jerry, he was using Jerry for the kids own good. The trainer always had the kids best interest. The kid dominated everybody he fought except for Jerry that final fight and he had dominated Jerry too until he IGNORED what his trainer told him. The premise of the kid dumping his trainer for Jerry was ludicrous considering how good a job his trainer was actually doing.

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yeah, ok, maybe you're right.. but this was really a light hearted tale...and the bad guy (old gruff trainer)always loses.

the old trainer was shown to be an A hole... sending the fighters by car, while he flew down for the fight... and the aforementioned using of Jerry by putting him on the team instead of paying him..

for a simple light hearted tale, it's not that "ludicrous" that the kid decides to go with the younger, hipper, Jerry F, and his new gym. maybe the kid wanted to be with a new gym and help his new friend start a gym that will produce more olympic boxers.

who would you rather work under... the a hole trainer at Cobra Kai ? or likeable yet very capable Mr. Myagi?

but ok...you're right.. "it's a movie"... and it would have been a lame ending if the kid boxer went back with the old trainer... it's a great movie ending.

so to answer your question; what did the trainer do wrong ? He was an A hole.

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excellent point.

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The kid was depicted as having character, which is why he eventually came to value Jerry's honesty, decency and sportsmanship over what could have been an easier road to success with the old, shady and dishonest trainer.

Any adult who fails to grasp that from this movie one can't at all envy.

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Not to mention Jerry had proven he had Robert's back in the car. Whereas the other trainer continually made it clear that he was simply using fighters for his own purposes, with little concern for their well-being outside the ring.

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I would say that the older trainer was teaching Robert Brown how not to lose a fight as oppose to how to win a fight. Brown didn't want to "run" from Jerry even if it was the best strategy. Consider it like Apollo Creed in Rocky II. Apollo wanted the knockout because he didn't want someone going the distance with him and he truly believed he could knock Rocky out. Hence, he doesn't listen to his trainer in the final rounds and tries to just trade punches with Rocky. In this movie, Brown feels that he has the ability to knock Jerry out and wants to prove it. It would be like in basketball if there was no shot clock, a team scoring 1 basket, getting a rebound and then dribble the ball around until the game is over (technically a good strategy but not in the spirit of the game or just being a competitor). A competitor wants to win but wants to be able to know that s/he was the best. If Brown had stayed away and won the fight, he would have to live with that he couldn't knock out a 40yr old guy and only won because he was quicker, not because he was a better boxer.

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