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Victims growing up to become molesters


What do you people think about this? I personally think it's a very unsettling, but it does seem to be a well-noted trend that people who are abused as children grow up to become abusers themselves.

I personally don't believe this is the case for EVERY victim, but it seems that former sexual-abuse victims are overrepresented among child molesters.

O'Grady claims to have been molested by 2 different priests and by his own brother.
The other day I watched a documentary about Nobel Prize-winner Carleton Gajdusek who was convicted of and admitted to having molested several children. He too claimed to have been abused by his uncle.

Several members and spokepeople of pedophile organization NAMBLA claim to have had sexual relationships with adult men when they were pre-teen.
There are many more examples.

Why is this?
And what should we do about this? It would be unfair to start monitoring the victims especially since they are already afraid and ashamed to report the abuse. Being marked as potential future molesters wouldn't be very nice.

Also, will the fact that you once were a molestation victim be used against you in court when charged with molestation allegations later on? Is that fair?

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maybe their brains were rewired from the trauma to be sort of 'stuck' in that age that they were molested in, and then they only find that age group attractive after that.

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No, I don't think this is true. Some go on to be abusers, but I'd think it's the minority.

I think we all know many people who were sexually abused as children, in one form or another. None of the ones that I know, anyway, are predators.

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A theory that has been around for about 70 years is called re-enactment. The person that is sexually abused as a child will sometimes unconsciously try to repeat the trauma in order to master it - an attempt to finally be in charge when of course they could not be when they were children. An example, but one on a much, much smaller scale is this. You argue with your boss, and he embarrasses you in front of your co-workers. Soon after the incident you fantasize how you would have wanted the incident to turn out, repeating (re-enacting) your new idea over and over again in your head. Maybe your fantasy is how YOU embarrassed HIM in front of your co-workers - you are now the victor. This example is of course conscious, but it does make you feel like the victor at least for a little while. I stress a little while, because the abuse victim on some level NEVER feels vindicated, so the process repeats itself with new victims.

This of course this does not excuse the perp. But this theory is why a child need to get help right away to avoid this horror. Sadly it is very hard emotionally for a child to report - so much shame involved, and even if she does sometimes the parents are too ashamed to do so and think the problem will all "go away." Ironically the child is revictimized when no one believes her story!!! More often than not the abuser is one the family knows, family member, friend, at least a person in the families life. Often we like to think it is more often a "stranger" who abuses-a mentally safer idea -one would rather not know the abuser. Who wants to think that a person close to the family, a person the family loves can be that evil.

1 in 4 girls are sexually abused in U.S. 1 in 6 boys are. Are those the saddest statistics you have ever read, or what?

"Anyone who tells a lie has not a pure heart, and cannot make a good soup." Ludwig Van Beethoven

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the theory actually is that victims/survivors of child sexual abuse are more likely to go on to become abusers if they don't get help... i worked for CARI long enough to know this (www.cari.ie)

statistics conservatively used indicate the two or three children, in every classroom, in every school here in ireland are affected by child sexual abuse... not necessarily abuse victims but maybe friends or related to a victim...

it's also horrifying that groups and therapy centres like CARI get no government funding and will have to close as they cannot give the services needed to those families... on the plus though CARI is the ONLY charity that every cent raised goes directly to families... none of it goes to commission, administration etc

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A couple of good things to read are this article

http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/vanderkolk/

And the book 'breaking the cycle of abuse'

http://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Cycle-Abuse-Beyond-Abuse-Free/dp/047174 0594/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358813355&sr=8-1&keywords=bre aking+the+cycle+of+abuse

My understanding of part of why people do it is that people kind of convince themselves that what happened to them was 'ok' on some level to reduce how traumatic the event was (you identify with the event or with the abuser). This sounds horrible, but it makes the victim feel less stress and pain than admitting how violated, vulnerable, helpless and hurt they are. The problem with doing that is that you set yourself up to repeat the pattern either as a victim or abuser once you convince yourself what happened is part of your life or life in general by doing that.

People who have been abused can grow up to either become abusers or abused. A molestation victim may (but not all do) grow up to molest, but some grow up to be abused further as adults. That article I posted earlier shows the rates of sexual abuse of women who were molested as kids is 2-4x higher than the rate for people who weren't abused as kids. How people respond to abuse can vary. Some become abusers of others but some become abused even further as adults (battered women who grow up to marry abusive men as an example). Some kill the pain with drugs/alcohol. Some live lives of quiet desperation behind the scenes. Some turn the hate on themselves and sink into self harm or depression.

The treatment is, as far as I know, letting the feelings of helplessness, shame, humiliation, violation, etc. that have been repressed out and processing them.

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