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Is this guy just acting?


This guy acts like he's barely been around a gun before, yet says he's a SEAL, is he just acting for the less knowladgeable-of-weapons viewers?

"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.'"
- Bhagavad-Gita

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He's probably just rusty and getting the viewer psyched when he hams it up sometimes. In all of the eps where he fires a weapon he usually has great accuracy and he knows how to handle them professionally, so I'm guessing he's just a bit nervous or rusty, that's all.

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Um, The military channel wouldnt just call anybody a SEAL, so yes, that he is for sure.

He is just rusty, hes been 10 years retired, but he seems like he can handle a weapon proficiently, watch the epidsode where he handles the Barret.

It's not easy - life - is not easy. If it were, everyone would be doing it.

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Go see on the site of Discovery Channel http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/futureweapons/bio/bio.html

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We also have to take into consideration that he is getting all excited about these new weapons because he is actually able to use them and compare them to older weapons. I think part of his "act" is that of a kid with a new video game. Know what I mean?

One way or another, he seems like a cool guy.

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maybe he is just trying to be humble... these people are giving him their life's work. hes not just going to be like "oh thanks... im an ex-SEAL, let ME show you how to use it". he scored a headshot with IMI's new assault rifle from a few hundred yards on his first shot.

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5 ring from a few hundred with a rifle - not a real great achievement to anyone who knows how to use a rifle.

plus you forget he's likely emptied a few clips zero'ing the thing in when the camera's off

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He is just an actor in my opinion. In the Future Weapons program, he identified a 7.62x39 (ak47 ammo) round as a .308 (7.62x51). He claims the Barrett XM107 was built for the US Army, when in fact it is just a copy of the M82A1 that was built for civilian use back in the 1980's. A fifty caliber bullet moving at 2800 fps will definitely not cut a man in half as he says. He also claims it takes 15-20 seconds to cycle the bolt on a bolt action rifle; complete BS.

Crap like this is why people believe 50 caliber rifles are WMD, and that Oswald could not fire 3 rounds in 8 seconds at JFK back in 1963.

He is just a pretty (bald) face reading a script.

Ranb

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ranb - He is not an actor, he's the real deal, he is in the Navy SEAL BUD/S database. You, on the other hand, are a pussbag who is not fit to hold his jock.

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I am an experienced shooter, I load my own ammo, do some gunsmithing, make silencers (atf form 1) and used to be an FFL. I do know a bit about guns. When I see a mistake on a program, there is nothing wrong with pointing it out.

Ranb

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Well see you used the term "silencer" instead of the correct term "suppressor." This just shows that everyone makes mistakes. Add to that the fact that he has to read a SCRIPT and you can see why he makes mistakes...he has to read what civvie writers give him, even if he knows it's wrong.

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There is nothing incorrect about using the word "silencer". It is a legal term used by the ATF, and it was a marketing term used by Maxim when he first sold his own silencer designs. If you look at the ATF form 1's I had approved to make my own suppressors, you would see that legally they are called silencers. If I had put the word suppressor on the form, it would have not been approved by the ATF.

I know that silencers do not actually silence a firearm, and that they are more properly called suppressors or moderators. I am not the one making the mistake here.

The mere fact he is reading a script makes him an actor, and last I heard, being an actor is no insult, even for a former SEAL.

Ranb

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Wait, so if you agree that he is just doing his job and it's not his fault, then why are you criticizing him rather than the writing team?

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Well, they are using a former SEAL for this show in an attempt to add to it's credibility and make it more interesting. One would hope that any person with the military experience had by the person hosting this show would be able to do more than just read from the script while sounding excited about the material.

If anyone wanted me to read that script in front of a camera, I would have refused unless they got it right. The show is not THAT bad, I am just being nitpicky. It would have been nice to hear that the XM107 was based on a rifle designed for civilian use.

The actor is part of the team, when he does well, the team does better.

Ranb

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Well you have to remember that this show is still relatively new and any problems Mack may cause could cause him to get canned, as there are plenty of ex-military guys to choose from that would love to host the show. He is just engaging in a bit of perfectly understandable CYA.

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If he knew that the writers made a mistake then he should/would have told them and they would have changed it. If it is a fact that he is a retired SEAL then he is a credible source and it would make no sense not to fix the factual error, unless lack of authenticity was the image they were aiming for. Just sayin'.

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right on

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He did get his own show! Hes Danny Forester!!!! lol

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I know he WAS a Navy SEAL, he is not anymore though. He is a former SEAL now. On that show, he is just an actor.

*beep* like you should keep their opinions to yourself until you learn something about the person you are addressing. I am a retired submariner and have the outmost respect for SEALS who are currently serving our country. But this does not change the fact that he is just an actor in this progam.

Ranb

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'utmost respect'

So, based off your logic, only people CURRENTLY serving our country deserve respect? So you bringing up that you're a retired submariner means NOTHING. You say that because he "was" a SEAL but not any more means he's just an 'actor'. You being a "retired submariner" means nothing as well, because you're not one any more. Good job on that logic Internet Super Genius.

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Those people here with basic reading skills understand that I am not judging him as a SEAL. I am only judging his performance as the host of the TV show we are discussing on this forum.

I have no reason to believe he was not an excellant soldier, but I am not qualified to make that judgement. I do know is that he has made mistakes when reading the script for the show. This is all I can judge him on. He is not a SEAL anymore, he is just an actor on this show.

Are you saying he did not make any mistakes on this show? If you claim he has not, then you need to educate yourself. If you accept that he has made very basic mistakes that a former military man should not make, then you should believe he is just being an actor now.

Ranb

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They looked like they would chill at the bar together and share headshot stories. I thought that was one of the best segments on that show.

I feel bad for Israel, that whole situation sucks over there, on both sides. I hope one day they will come to understanding, acceptance and peace.

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and you have access to the database???

he might have been a seal in the past, but obviously ranb's message was wasted on you


go back to your beer cletus

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cmitchell016 "im an ex-SEAL, let ME show you how to use it". he scored a headshot with IMI's new assault rifle from a few hundred yards on his first shot." LOL
That Was Awesome!!!
The Israeli guy started to sweat him after that too. He was like, "I was told Americans can't shoot, you just proved me wrong." LOL
That new Israeli gun was cool, a lot like a FN-2000
It seems the bullpup design is superior to the traditional.

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This is for pq0101. I have not made any personal attacks against you in this thread, therefore if you are an adult and not a child, you should have no reason to make derogatory comments about me.

Comments like yours add nothing of value to the debate.

Ranb

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When he called the 7.62x39 ammo .308 he was right. 7.62 is the metric measurements for .308 bullet. When anyone uses the metric measurements the first number is the width of the BULLET the second number is the length of the SHELL+BULLET. Therefore the 7.62x39 does equal .308 in width which is all that matters since that is all that is flying down-range.

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Well, not exactly. 7.62 millimeters divided by 25.4 equals 0.300 inches. The 7.62x39 and 7.62x54 cartridges actually use bullets of .310 to .311 diameter and have equal groove diameters; the barrel land diameters are .303 inches.

30 caliber guns in the USA and Europe have a groove/bullet diameter of .308 inches and a land diameter of .300 inches.

The case for the 7.62x39 is 39 millimeters long. The length of the loaded round is longer. While the case length is always the same, overall cartridge length can be much differant depending on the type of bullet used.

Saying 308 almost always means (in the USA anyway) the 308 winchester (7.62nato)cartridge.

Ranb

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"Mack" as i'll call him, has been on a reality show (look it up on this website).
He is a RETIRED Seal, so these brilliant weapons are absolutely awe-inspring to him, and he probably needs to emphasize and hyperbolize many aspects of each weapon. He tries to draw viewers from all ages and often dramatizes things, like when he: 1. whispers when talking about a weapon/effects of weapon
2. exaggerates the weapons and tries to make it seem dramatic...(such as in the episode about either the MLRS, or one of the field artillery weapons, he is at the target area with wooden figures gathered around a decommissioned artillery piece; the targets were numbered, not exact quote but he says,
"These dummies are numbered....so they can identify the bodies."


He probably needs to dramatize everything to draw viewers in, it is still a show, like any other show on any channel. If the show doesn't get good ratings, the show could be canceled, or they might replace him with someone that'll "grab" the audience's attention; which is why he makes everything so dramatic.


..............but he is an ex-navy seal, no doubt about that. It's not like he could afford to live retirement merely on whatever retirement money the navy gives.

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I have no doubt about this guy's credentials- he knows how to handle weapons- but the guy does emote a little much I think. But of course the emoting is for interest sakes- and probably more interesting than say some of the guys in the service I know, who would probably get a little too technical and revert to the standard monotone manner of speaking that seems inherent in most service types. This show is afterall for the public at large- it's not a military armaments infomercial.

...And a request for something to do...

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You know.. If you take anything on this show seriously, you should be shot. Honestly, the guy doesn't know *beep* If he's reading from a script, he's even more of a scumbag that I originally thought. Discovery channel needs to pull crap like this, and it takes a thief, and future car, off the air, now.

I got a good god damn host. How about a true badass? Richard Marcinko. Machowicz, you polish bastard, gtfo!

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LMFAO nice attempt at trolling.

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i remember this guy from buds amphib coronado.he was about 165 lbs sopping wet (no,not a seal joke)and spent some time in sick call
i remember our first class who was a seal as well as corpsman was calling him wojohowitz,from barney miller.the little filth eater
didn't even blink.he was hypothermic and shivering like he had malaria,but a real hard core cake eater.mack,or whatever you call him
he's definately been there but remember nobody went to his house and dragged him into being this t.v. guy.actor or other whise,he's
making more money than you,citizen

2064987

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Wait, so are you supporting or attacking him? I'm defending him. Your post is a bit confusing.

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I'll attack him. He is a douchbag. Why does he talk like that? But, what do you expect from a life coach/motivational speaker?

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What's the big deal? They're some of the friendliest people you'll ever meet.

Case in point: Anthony Robbins. 'Nuff said.

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Tony Robbins hungry. Me eat you with my gigantor teeth.
Huh? I thought the guy was friendly. It was funny how overfriendly he got when he saw how good a shot Mac was. That gun was massively impressive, Israeli's sure know how to make weapons. Of coarse they don't really have much of a choice.

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I thought we were referring to Mac when we were arguing about friendliness or doucheness, not the Israeli fellow. That being said, that Israeli guy seems like a cool dude to hang out with.

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I like the show, respect the man and will continue watching. However, "Mack" is to hosting what David Caruso is to acting. He is overly dramatic and uses the Clint Eastwood "menacing whisper" much too often. Slap some sunglasses and red hair on him, and have him stand with his hands on his hips and it would be just like watching CSI: Miami.

What could it possibly hurt if he acted less like an ultra macho tough guy and more like a normal person?



MMMMM, donuts!

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CSI Miami rocks and so does Mack. "Any of you wimps cant handle what this weapon is about to do to that dangerous decommissioned, disarmed, immobilised tank over there....then you better just turn over to the Disney Channel" (says in the best Mack voice whispered impression)

Its amazing how many people criticise something for nothing. I mean David Attenborough is the greatest TV naturalist around. He whispers and he emphasises what he finds fascinating. Steve Irwin was really annoying (before a stingray proved more annoying) and yet some like his style. Everyone has their own style. To me Macks style is cool and it doesnt disturb ones viewing. So he is doing a good job.

Maybe some of you macho playstation, skateboard dudes might want to try life in the infantry (hard enough) and then set your sights on the Seals and see how far and how long you last trying. Doubt you will last long coz you just a bunch of girly men ;-)

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After reading through the messages here, I definatly have to side with ranb. It is very difficult to take a person seriously who was supposedly an ex SEAL when he claims the .50 BMG cartridge is one of the largest "bullets" in the world. I'm not doubting his experience since he certainly handles weapons well, but his painful observations of obvious points coupled with his melodramatic voicing completely ruins the tone of the show for me.

Perhaps he is simply acting but just playing the wrong act. Who knows, maybe he is honestly just stuck in a permanent state of hyperbole.

nice post btw gvsmoore :)

Words are far more potent when uttered scarcely -myself

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thanks Tachikoma22 (though i had to plagiarise Arnie for the last line)

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