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what/how would MsTillie get rid of Ruth's baby? this was pre legal abort


What/how would jamaican MsTillie get rid of Ruth's baby?
Raisin was in 63; pre legal abortion (73's Roe v Wade).

IndiaArie TESTIMONY VOL 1:LIFE&RELATIONSHIP

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It's set before the 60s actually. Ms. Tillie is offering an illegal abortion, the only option.

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Really it b4 60s? I thought it was 60s.
I know she's doing illegal abortions, I'm asking how? They were no pills back then. Is she a nurse on the side?

IndiaArie TESTIMONY VOL 1:LIFE&RELATIONSHIP

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The movie/play took place in the 1950s.


No two persons ever watch the same movie.

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I didnt say they werent. I'm wondering HOW
Is tillie a nurse on the side? Bc they werent pills back then.

I know its a minor thing & not @ all impt to play plot, but just wondering.

IndiaArie TESTIMONY VOL 1:LIFE&RELATIONSHIP

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The scene of Ruth going to the place to have the abortion is very important. Actually the play was produced in 1959 before the 1960s and many women had abortions illegally.

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Just because abortions were illegal prior to 1973, it didn't mean they weren't available. One of the reasons for legal abortions was to make them safe, affordable and available to women. Prior to that, rich women could afford to get safe procedures from doctors who would do it on the sly. Poor women either had to resort to home remedies (i.e. pennyroyal tea or other herbal methods), wire hangers or back alley abortionists who generally offered unsanitary, dangerous methods.

Abortion methods, safe or otherwise, have been available for thousands of years.

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I never said abortions were available. I asked HOW.I'm wondering HOW?
Is tillie a nurse on the side? Bc they werent pills back then.

I know its a minor thing & not @ all impt to play plot, but just wondering.

Pennroyal? What is in that? To google I go!

IndiaArie TESTIMONY VOL 1:LIFE&RELATIONSHIP

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Various methods isnt an answer.
I SAID it isnt impt, that I was just wondering.

But now that I saw the tongs I have an answer. The play didnt specify so I didnt think the movie would.

IndiaArie TESTIMONY VOL 1:LIFE&RELATIONSHIP

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For what it's worth, here's wikipedia's two cents...

"Historically, a number of herbs reputed to possess abortifacient properties have been used in folk medicine: tansy, pennyroyal, black cohosh, and the now-extinct silphium. The use of herbs in such a manner can cause serious — even lethal — side effects, such as multiple organ failure, and is not recommended by physicians.

Abortion is sometimes attempted by causing trauma to the abdomen. The degree of force, if severe, can cause serious internal injuries without necessarily succeeding in inducing miscarriage. Both accidental and deliberate abortions of this kind can be subject to criminal liability in many countries. In Burma, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, and Thailand, there is an ancient tradition of attempting abortion through forceful abdominal massage.

Reported methods of unsafe, self-induced abortion include misuse of misoprostol, and insertion of non-surgical implements such as knitting needles and clothes hangers into the uterus. These methods are rarely seen in developed countries where surgical abortion is legal and available."


So... Perhaps, she was planning on using a combination of a knowledge of folk medicine and acquired medical knowledge to induce a miscarriage and deliver the fetus...

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