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I loved this movie, except for the sex.


It didn't serve ANY purpose. You could argue it shows the intensity of their attraction but the real heart in the film is their love. Love and lust are too VERY different things. They don't seem to contrast to well in this film as they do in the real world. Even if they just implied the sex it would have been able to sit better for me, but the intensity of the scenes just didn't sit right with me and rocked the boat.

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I agree i also read that it took 11 days to shoot the love scenes .I don't know what takes that long its not supposed to be a pornography .I don't get why actors are doing real sex in films i dont get why they are doing real anything period .It's called acting for a reason it just seems like .Whoever it's idea to go that far with these scenes isn't to suit some artistic purpose but a more perverse reason . I'm waiting on the day when actual porn stars will be treated as acting equals . It's not right that their legit actor counter parts are getting recognition for doing porn and they aren't .Hollywood is filled with a bunch of hypocrites its ridiculous the hypocrisy.

Let's face it, people hate art movies. Especially when they are not expecting an art movie"

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Well my understanding is that there wasn't any actual penetration, regardless, they were gratuitous and lasted far too long. I know I'm a prude.

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Maybe the clue was in the title. Just maybe.
I don't know why people still complain about sex in movies. Unlike shooting people, we all do it.

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Really! WTH would someone with a functioning brain expect. Causes me to wonder if people really viewed film or are just here for self serving reasons.
Just saying.

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I realize this reply is late but, oh well. I'm not complaining about the sex. I'm complaining about how gratuitous it is. I think sex was very prevalent to the story.

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Funny you mention this, as I just rewatched it and had a new idea about that aspect.

Before, I'd just sort of reflected on the idea--a dangerous one, as Li An was well aware and would say in interviews--that the flick was about how true intimacy requires openness; even if it means being open about being a torturer.

But this last go-'round, I had another thought: It's also about the tragedy that a young woman's first sexual experience involved her acting a role. And the final jewelry shop scene reflects her desperate, human need to have her sexual/intimate life blossom into full reality; which drove her to protect Yee. That desperation is both beautiful (that love naturally yearns/demands to be real) and tragic (it should have been real in the first place). That latter point (real in the first place) was driven home to me by that fleeting exchange with Kwang, when she tells him, "You should have approached me three years ago."

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And I'd like that. But that 5h1t ain't the truth. --Jules Winnfield

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Yeah, it seems Lee needs to get off his high horse defending how vital and important all the graphic sex scenes are. It's just the actors *beep* for 10 minutes or so, no need convincing me it's anything more than that.

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I was engrossed in the film until the sex started and then all I could think was "are they having sex for real?" and then that was all I could concentrate on. Took me right out of it.

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To be completely honest, I have not seen this film, but I have some comments about sex scenes in general. I believe that the uneasiness some people feel is because sex is such a personal thing to each of us. Very few, I think, would like to see ourselves filmed during sex and to see others makes us feel like voyeurs, looking in on someone else's personal space. We know people have sex and this can be suggested in a movie without the explicit details. This is not being prudish, it is just a matter that some things are simply too personal to show on the screen.

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They were not. In fact the guy's penis could be seen in a fraction of a second and it was flaccid.

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I think a lot of information is given in the sex scenes.

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