the dog


does the dog get killed. if he does, it is gross?

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I can't answer that yet, but it's not looking good, as the dog has now (just over an hour in) been injured further. I wish they'd cut the shot a second earlier, because seeing/hearing bones crack was just a bit much for me.


Tho it is dark . . . know our flag . . . is still there.

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At about 1 hour 23 minutes in, the dog is pushed overboard. But there's still time for it to somehow show up again.


Tho it is dark . . . know our flag . . . is still there.

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Pretty sure he died since he had a broken back and was threw overboard. Even though it is only a movie it is still sad.

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yeah it is sad still. but the movie itself is just ok a 3

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It's not just sad, it's outrageous that writers have to continuously
kill off animals. Do they think that they are showing signs of great
penmenship. I think it's a lack of imagination.
(Picking on helpless animals. They should be ashamed of themselves!)

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I hate that as well.

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I agree wholeheartedly. To be perfectly honest, this movie was mediocre at best to begin with. The pointless killing of the dog did it for me. It makes me mad, extremely mad, that they always seem to kill of the helpless animals in movies. What exactly are the writers trying to prove? Sorry if it seems like I'm overreacting, but I get very angry about this sort of thing.

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I'm glad they killed the dog. I like animals as much as anyone but what I find outrageous is writers continually not killing off animals in movies when they should die or their lives being treated as sacrosanct. Kill the humans and spare the animals kind of logic. Of course when a dog or some other animal actually does die in a movie a bunch of whiners come out of the woodwork and go on as if an animal was actually hurt for real. And I'm not really sure how an animal dying or not dying has anything to with the writers imagination or lack thereof. If anything it as least shows a desire to break convention even if it couldn't be deemed imaginative.

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the reason that movie makers often feature animals especially dogs cats ect being killed is that they know it tugs at peoples heart strings in a way that humans being killed simply does not seem to do.

its also a way of making the evil character seem even more evil and cruel since those who are mean and cruel to animals and kids are seen as being that extra bit more malicious than those who are just cruel to adult humans.

I don't like real life cruelty to animals or adult humans but the fuss people make about cruelty to animals being featured in movies is akin to the fuss over rape scenes in movies to me .


its odd to me that some folks are happy to sit there watching various multipile decapitations murders and guttings without flinching.
but a rape scene or cruelty to animal scene gets them all worked up and sounding like those conservative right wingers who always go on about violence in movies.

in fact those right wingers make more sense since at least they object to all violence.
being happy enough to watch murder guttings and beheadings but then getting so worked up about (fake) rape scenes and (fake) animal cruelty in movies seems really odd.

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"the reason that movie makers often feature animals especially dogs cats ect being killed is that they know it tugs at peoples heart strings in a way that humans being killed simply does not seem to do.

its also a way of making the evil character seem even more evil and cruel since those who are mean and cruel to animals and kids are seen as being that extra bit more malicious than those who are just cruel to adult humans."

Hi Viewsonthenet,
I agree with you and I am aware that these are tactics used to shock the audience. That is the reason why people watch horror/gore movies.
And though I am an animal activist, I know that no one is really getting killed, not even kit kat or spot. Please! The movies show people getting mutilated, nice cars getting wrecked and sometimes a few enviromental infractions. :-)
But it's Directors/Writers like Lars Von Trier who thinks that his movie has to look so realistic (better than anyone elses!) that he actually kills a donkey in one of his movies. Well, if it has to be that realistic then why don't they just start allowing homeless people to be offed in movies...for that realistic effect!
But if I just want to see a gore film, I would much rather see some one screaming and fighting than simpley hear a yelp from a dog or a yowl from a cat.
I honestly think that it is just not very imaginative writing.
BTW, rape scenes don't bother me either, I just sometime want to see Fluffy be the hero of the movie!

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Don't know about that. When the boy was killed in Dinocroc that really shocked viewers.

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I know! I can't stand that about these movies. It's like let's see how far we can go.

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Well, you know, when burning people who go overboard come back, anything's possible. But now that you've gone into detail without the spoiler cover, yes, it appeared that the dog's back (if not more) was broken. I'm not convinced it would have lived as long as it did before going into the sea.


Tho it is dark . . . know our flag . . . is still there.

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Even though it is only a movie it is still sad.

And, yes, I almost turned it off at that point -- I wasn't much into the story and though I know it wasn't real, the dog being abused still bothered me.


Tho it is dark . . . know our flag . . . is still there.

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Isn't that kind of the point? Brutality to stupid humans is expected. Brutality to defenseless animals is still disturbing to watch.

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Yeah, but the killing of the dog was pointless and only there to fill up time. Sure, people were getting murdered, but the point was so the guy could switch bodies. The killing of the dog was totally unnecessary for the plot, and the fact that he killed it by pushing it overboard with a broken back was sad and almost made me stop watching it.

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Actually, I felt that the whole plot was a bit thin with regard to the killings.

I get that the antagonist killed Zane because he coveted Kathy. After that it all seems to get a bit pointless and confusing. The child in Kathy's dream eventually clarifies something of his motives, but it comes so late in the story that for most of the film, he appears to simply be doing evil for evil's sake.

I assume that he kills the others because they are suspicious of Zane's strange behaviour, but even then, his motives seem week and his actions self-defeating.

- Back to your bridge, you evil troll. You have no powers here! -

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Well, what triggered the bloodbath was the fact that Big Dave wasn't willing to keep sailing at night through the fog bank. The switcher attacked the dog (as Zane) to get to Big Dave. He needed to get rid of Big Dave to keep the boat sailing. He wanted to get away from The Ferryman.


Beyond that, I think that once he unleashed the inner beast he just went nuts.

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Looks like my dog I have now. When I see something might be happening I will be sure to mute and look away.

There is no reason to alwayss bring pets into a movie and do them in. It's sickening.

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I think I felt worse for the poor fake dog than any of the people on board. I mean that dog went through hell.

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I felt bad or the dog but worse for the poor shark.

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Of all the threads on this movie's forum, THIS stupid 'Dog' thread is the LONGEST of all! Ridiculous!

People getting murdered, ridiculed, sliced & diced & its all good, but a dog gets their spine snapped & everyone is b!tch!ing about it! Gimme a break!!!!!

I have to admit when the dog gets pushed overboard, it was pretty cold thinking it was gonna drown to death...but oh well!

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Land of the Lost: 3/10
Ferryman: 7/10
Hills Run Red:7/10
Santas Slay: 4/10
The Thaw: 6/10

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The evil spirit seemed to like killing people and he didn't do it in a clean way so why would he have to stop before a dog ? He liked for other creatures to suffer. And by the way why not a word about the shark killed at the beginning ? Is it because it's OK if you've just seen "Jaws" before ? Is it OK to kill a dog if you've just seen "Cujo" before ?

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Was a bit gratuitous.



I got news for 'em. There's gonna be hell to pay. 'Cause I ain't Daddy's little boy no more.

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