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Why did they have to sneak Andreas onto the bus at the end?

posted 14 years ago by jaf-14
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I just saw this movie and thought it was great, but I have one question: at the end of the movie, the two 'bouncer' guys sneak Andreas into the luggage/engine compartment of the bus, while the bus driver is occupied saying goodbye to the old lady on the other side of the bus.

What is the significance of that? Why couldn't they just put Andreas on the bus as a passenger, in the normal fashion? Would the bus driver have objected? Was Andreas' eviction from the city something underhanded/illegal that the bouncers needed to keep secret?

[–] keenan3 14 years ago

I think they fully planned to put him on the bus, but he didnt have a pass

[–] wmgray1966 14 years ago

For some reason the political police make arrests quietly and secretly, and the disposition of the dissidents is also done secretly. Look at how the the KGB (and its predecessors) arrested people, in the middle of the night. After arrest, the victims quietly disappeared into the Gulag. Ironically, the Gulag sent victims to Siberia. Is that the explanation for the snow at the end? After all, this is a film about socialism.

"In omnibus requiem quaesivi, et nusquam inveni nisi in angulo cum libro"

[–] poofta1970 14 years ago

wmgray the film is not "about socialism" you may read it that way but it's a very simplistic interpretation.

He's bundled onto the coach because he is stirring up trouble.

The guardians of this purgatory want people in their charge to be content with what they now have instead of trying to break back into the world they could have stayed in but opted out of.

That could be read in a consumerist way just as much a socialist way if you wanted to but it's not an explicit message of the film.

[–] daburgundy 12 years ago

I say there's a socialism in it too coz it is somewhat a community whether it is a purgatory or hell or heaven right? its up to your interpretation of the place. i also sense it as blind acceptance of somthing and not really faith. where you just have to follow because they said so.

Les Noir

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[–] dont_b_so_BBC 12 years ago

I just saw this movie and thought it was great, but I have one question: at the end of the movie, the two 'bouncer' guys sneak Andreas into the luggage/engine compartment of the bus, while the bus driver is occupied saying goodbye to the old lady on the other side of the bus.

Not "sneak", "trapped"-- they trapped him in the luggage/engine compartment so that he would not be able to get out until they drove him off.

If you care enough to go around telling people you don't care... you obviously care.

[–] ctocu 12 years ago

...because the two guards dont want to disturb the status quo of the place. Creating an unpleasant scene in front of a newcomer is not good! Notice also that this newcomer is not like our protagonist. He immediately goes and shakes the hand of the welcoming guy as he steps out of the bus! So he is obviously one who will fit in and like the place.
The place he is in, is for superficial people.

[–] done_holding_back 12 years ago

To me it was juxtaposition with the opening scene. He arrived inside the bus (comfortably) and was greeted kindly with a "Welcome" sign. He left in the luggage compartment (uncomfortably) and the "Welcome" sign was removed. This represents a change in his status from a member of the community to an exile.

[–] xterminal 12 years ago

Yeah, I saw it as a case of "you're no longer fit to ride in the seats." He wasn't smuggled or snuck on so much as put on in a different place for a different leg of he journey.

[–] PoppyTransfusion 8 years ago

They didn't want to perturb their new arrival seeing the state of the man. Remembered she was being welcomed to a perfect world and he was not a good example of such a world.

I'm scared of the middle place between light and nowhere

[–] gentey 8 years ago

Maybe those people weren't the actual leaders and they only believed that they were. Perhaps that was their hell as well. Well, the most mystical character in the piece was the bus driver who was like the Ferryman and apparently could take his bus too and from both worlds.