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Is this why it went straight-to-TV?


Not a great film this. In fact, it's the worst Ken Loach film he's ever made. This by no means suggests it's awful; it isn't. Loachie has, after all, directed half a dozen out-and-out masterpieces ('Sweet Sixteen,' 'Raining Stones,' 'Ladybird Ladybird' etc) and doesn't appear to know HOW to make a 'bad' film but this one seemed a little sloppy. It also lacked the trademark humour of so many of Loachies' previous movies and the unsubtle moments when a point is trying to be made a little TOO clearly (this also happens in 'The Navigators') didn't help matters.

Perhaps the most significant problem I had with the film was how so many of the scenes failed to ring completely true. Whereas Loachie has made a name for his trademark realism and documentary style techniques, a number of the sequences - particularly those featuring Angie and the arguing immigrants - didn't feel or look believable. Perhaps it was partially the character of Angie herself; her behaviour throughout the movie bordered on the strange and erratic; yes, whilst we're meant to have a love-hate relationship with her, her decision to jump into bed with a Polish immigrant she barely knew was hardly representative of the hard-nosed, independent female we were introduced to at the very start of the movie. She later decides to invite a couple of the workers back to the flat for some apparent 'fun and games' which could have perhaps been an interesting opportunity for Loach to have explored the dangers of Angie and co becoming personally involved with her workers. No such luck; the film cut away to a new day and a new event and we never got to learn what - if anything - had actually happened. As the story itself unfolded, things also became more and more confused, with no actual explanation ever offered as to why the building contractor was actually unable to pay Angie. He got beaten up himself, yes...but why? The scene in which Angie later makes a telephone call to the ‘immigration people’ was also baffling and unbelievable; not only did Angie JUST HAPPEN to have their number on her mobile phone but I loved the way the person who answered took all the details as Angie gave them! Whilst I know very little about immigration procedures, I can personally guarantee viewers that Angie’s threat to “go to the press in 24 hours if something isn’t done” would hardly have had immigration officers quivering in their boots!

The acting. There were some dreadful moments in this department too. The most guilty moment, for me anyway, had to be the scene in which the Iranian family 'tell their stories' at Angie's dinner table. Did it sound like it was being read off a script or what? In fact, it also SOUNDED blatantly scripted and this made it even worse. I even thought someone was going to hand the husband a cue card at one point. Dreadful. To be fair, most of the other performances were, for the most part, pretty good, although it was never a strong point of the movie.

Interestingly, the film's message seemed a slightly confused one, offering no easy answers about the plights of both legal and illegal people seeking work and a new life in The UK and, in fact, this I rather liked. However, the confused and slightly jarring way in which the events unfolded; the dodgy script and performances and a complete and total lack of humour and empathy make this a disappointment for Mr Loach. I expect a rapid return to form next year because the man's still a legend and the best Britain has.

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I have to agree with most of what you've said about the film, it was worth watching but I felt a bit disappointed, it could have been much better. The acting wasn't great at times, the Iranian family scene was a particular low point, although i think the actress who played Angie was pretty good overall. One bit I did particularly like though was the dialogue between Angie and her long-suffering mum "you won't be young forever".

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I haven't seen to many of Loach's films to be honest but so far I would say this is the worst, but that's only becuase the others were excellent. However although i agree with your first point about that, the rest I don't so much.

"her decision to jump into bed with a Polish immigrant she barely knew was hardly representative of the hard-nosed, independent female we were introduced to at the very start of the movie."

To me that, and the later scene when she invites two guys over, just show's that although she appears independant and hard-nosed she's still kind of desperate for something. She needs something to fill the gap of a partner, and she may well then be scared of commiting since her previous partner left, or she left him. she may be scares to get attached of fear of being hurt again, so simply craves sex to fill that gap.

"her behaviour throughout the movie bordered on the strange and erratic"
On this all I can say is do you always act straightforward, always thinking, I can place a high bet on you don't. It's a very human and very realistic way to act, in my opinion, reflecting what Loach does best ^^


"things also became more and more confused, with no actual explanation ever offered as to why the building contractor was actually unable to pay Angie"

I can see why that would be annoying, I also think it's again another of Loach's (or rather laverty's) techniques, he doesn't give everything to you on a platter, your just seeing a story from one person's point of view and your only seeing a section of their life. So I think to show, say, another section as to why he cant be payed would ruin that.

"not only did Angie JUST HAPPEN to have their number on her mobile phone but I loved the way the person who answered took all the details as Angie gave them! Whilst I know very little about immigration procedures, I can personally guarantee viewers that Angie’s threat to “go to the press in 24 hours if something isn’t done” would hardly have had immigration officers quivering in their boots!"

It's highly likely she'd have their number on her phone if she worked in that business. As for the rest, I too don't know much about it, I'm sure less then you, but still thinking logically I think it would have them worried. If say she went to the press and told them that immigration service had refused to clear out a camp of illegal immigrants then that shows they aren't doing their job, people would get angry, and some of the immigration officers would probably run into a fair of trouble.


"The most guilty moment, for me anyway, had to be the scene in which the Iranian family 'tell their stories' at Angie's dinner table"

I'd love to argue that for the sake of Laverty's work but your right, Interesting though it was it really did seem scripted. Still it was an important scene, just a shame it seemed so fake.

"However, the confused and slightly jarring way in which the events unfolded; the dodgy script and performances and a complete and total lack of humour and empathy make this a disappointment for Mr Loach"

This I do disagree with though. Confused and slightly jarring, to me again this is a more realistic touch, events in real life aren't all straight forward, they are confused and jarring - Though maybe confused is the wrong word, as to me it makes sense. It follows a set path but as life goes, not a straight path.
The dodgy script again i have to disagree with, barring that one scene you mentioned around the dinner table, the rest sounded as all Laverty's scripts - realistic; pure and simple.
And I think the point I most disagree with is a total lack of empathy, for me I had that completely with Angie - She was trying desperatly hard just to make money for her son, and yet she lost her friend becuase of it, she had to do some horrible things. Her Father as well, he could see his grandson being ignored and doing badly in school, he just wanted what was best for him and couldn't get it through to Angie. Then there's her Son and we can all surely empathise with him, he's angry with his mother and yet loves her, all he wants is her but he can't entirely have her. And the there's even Rose, she saw her friend ruined by the job and ended up losing her best friend. hating her.

Sorry this is such a late reply, it'll just be ablast from the past, but it just had to be said - now back to my essay on Sweet Sixteen....terrible procrastinator me...if thats the right word o.O



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wasn't it *made* for tv?

*You're not listening to me. There are other things that need to be taken into account here*

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straight to tv and straight to dvd usually sucks. There are a few exceptions, this film not one of them

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I don't think it was made with the intention of being the next big movie. It certainly had a very natural feel to it, and seemed more like a tv movie than your typical British movie.

Even the acting was a bit hazy but thats why it felt more natural, sort of like you were watching reality.

Who cares if it went straight to tv, it was still a good watch.




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The story wasn't that bad but the acting was terrible. You can see the "actors" trying to act and failing rather than believing them as real people. I love Ken Loach movies but this was awful.

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