The show dropped in numbers a bit and it was their excuse to end it. James Woods was being a total jerk and people could stand him anymore. I don't have a source and I don't remember where I heard it. It is the only feasible thing that makes sense. The show was doing very well I don't know why else they would cancel.
That being said I am excited for the conclusion to the Waynes World story. That guy is awesome and it may be a fitting end to the series.
Yes, yes it was all James' fault, of course he managed to get the show cancelled all by his lonesome, he's talented like that. Listen, don't have the facts to back it up, don't post it. Simple as. James Woods did not get Shark cancelled, CBS terribly awful judgement got it cancelled.
http://www.sharkfanfiction.com/forums/index.php?
Yeah I really don't think it was him. Besides, if he hadn't signed on, Shark may not have even aired to begin with.
shareI'm glad u beat me here. lol. I was just about to rip him apart for saying that. Ohh that got me so mad.
shareFair enough he has a reputation for being hard to work with but the fact that the cast have nothing but good words for him kinda disputes that whole 'he got it cancelled' thing. I very much doubt that Jimmy would put the show in jeprody by acting like an idiot, he's a smart man, he knows when to stop, even if he did it in the first place. There were rumours but that's why I think CBS put that video of Jimmy backstage on Shark, to prove there was no beef between him and CBS. *breathes*
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Yeah believe me, James Woods may be hard to work with but he takes great pride and joy in his work. And he was very proud and protective of Shark so he wouldn't let anything happen.
shareTrue, he's a talented and intelligent man, people should be able to stand him for that. I know I would. He deserved to have a show for so long and he finally got it, even after his brother's death - they said he did it for him too -, his brother would've wanted it to be that way.
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Wow, you must all be James Woods best friends and have spoken to him personally about this to know so assuredly of your information?
The person who was first to reply to the OP, you said to them if they don't have their facts to not post, then you post that it wasn't him it was the networks fault.... I presume you have absolute facts to back this up? such as you were sat in the meetings between the bigwigs when the decision was made? If not then you are a complete hypocrite..
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It's NOT HIS fault that Shark got axed,it's CBS's fault for not keeping a decent time slot for it or just moving it to another network. DAMN U CBS & MAY U BURN IN HELL!
shareShark was not the best show in the world, but it was CBS' fault for moving it to strange timeslots for no reason and getting more disappointing (albiet solid) ratings as a result, but instead of thinking properly and moving Shark back to it's original slot they short-sightedly decided to can it. Meanwhile Leslie Moonves rewarded himself with a salary of 67.6 million dollars while CBS shares fell 40%...
shareAw....thats a bummer it's being cancelled...maybe someone should do what they did for Jericho...and send some marbles;)
It's a tragedy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcChzrv9cEo
Guys (and gals),
remember that CBS & Star Trek (TOS)?
Why is it called tourist season if we can't shoot at them?
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Hello Chaosrn-1, just to correct your post. "Star Trek TOS"
aired via NBC not CBS from 1966-69. You got the network
wrong!
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I'm James "Sonny" Crockett!
NBC canceled it, but CBS turned the whole project down, and if you beleive roddenbury's book, they "took the meeting" and pumped him for ideas and then produced "Lost in Space" using many of his ideas.
Why is it called tourist season if we can't shoot at them?
Maybe TNT should have pick up the show. They did it with Southland.
shareYeah, that was me. Obviously I don't have concrete proof that he didn't get the show cancelled but there's a hell of a lot more evidence which says he wasn't the deciding factor. The cast and crew having nothing but kind words for him is one thing, the YouTube video showing him behind the scenes is another. The rumours about him acting like a jerk are exactly that, rumours, I for one, didn't even "hear" these rumours. If you'd be ever so kind as to point me in the direction of said rumors, I would be forever grateful...
I just don't appreciate people coming to a board of a show and posting statements which are obviously going to cause arguements and people to react in the way that they did. That's my justification for my reaction, if you don't like, tell someone who cares.
At the end of the day, you believe what you want to believe, I believe he didn't cause Shark's cancellation and nothing apart from concrete evidence of that will change my mind.
i agree, the cancellation of a show has too many factors to point to just one person, the writting staff, the directors as well as the other cast members. The show was not called "James Woods' Shark", it was called "Shark"
IMHO, they were going thru a rough period, without a good story line to follow, i believe the story line could have been recaptured, but they were not given the chance.
Another decent show which doesn't contain mindless drivel dies a quick silent death, and we the viewers are on the short end AGAIN!
Why is it called tourist season if we can't shoot at them?
As much as I am a huge proponent of the idea that one should not make inflammatory statements without having evidence to back it up, I have to side with Ams87 here.
There is a key difference between what Ams87 said and what Mstanford01 said.
The OP (Mstanford01) more or less accused James Woods of acting like a jerk and saying people could not stand him, without any evidence or even a hint of where evidence might exist.
On the other hand, Ams97 blamed CBS' bad judgement for getting the show cancelled.
What Mstanford01 said was, whether correct or incorrect, an issue of facts. You can have an opinion about what constitutes acting like a jerk, in fact, that's pretty much almost always going to be subjective, however, the statement that "people could [sic] stand him anymore," is not subjective. Regardless of whether or not anyone can prove it, it is still either a true or false statement.
With what Ams87 said, there are two ways to look at it. The first is that while Ams87's statement might also be on the surface one of fact, in reality any reasonable person who really takes the timeto think about it would realize it's not. He or she never really meant to imply that they could provide concrete proof like a memo or something that would show that CBS purposefully moved Shark's tiemslot in order to have it fail; it was obviously more of an expression of frustration directed at CBS.
However, if you want to try to argue that we should take his or her statement literally, then quite frankly, we're covered there too. Because when it comes down to it, CBS cancelled the show. That is an inarguable fact. No one else could have gotten the show cancelled - it's not as if ABC or NBC could have decided "hey we don't like the competition, we are cancelling the show." Hell, even if the writers decided they wanted to sabotage the show and trash talked every single sponsor the show had, the bottom line is that all those sponsors could do would be to call up CBS, read them the riot act and threaten to pull all of their money, but in the end it's still CBS that has to cancel the show.
Jeri Ryan named James woods as one of her two people who were "difficult" on Aisha Tyler's podcast. So not everyone has something nice to say.
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"Yes, yes it was all James' fault, of course he managed to get the show cancelled all by his lonesome, he's talented like that. Listen, don't have the facts to back it up, don't post it. Simple as. James Woods did not get Shark cancelled, CBS terribly awful judgement got it cancelled."
You sound like you know what you're posting about. I don't know squat. I have seen this series but I missed about 5 or 6 episodes. I have downloaded them and will watch them soon. I liked this series.
I don't know where the OP got his info but it doesn't seem correct. James Woods has never struck me as a "jerk" and I have never heard about him being difficult to work with. He does have a genius I.Q. and some geniuses are indifferent and aloof. Not always and that doesn't seem to be the case with James. Honestly I have no idea. Do you? Why did CBS cancel the series?
Shark got cancelled because of demos.
That's the long and the short of it.
No show on any network survived last season with demos as low as Shark's average.
Dirty Sexy Money, Eli Stone and Pushing Daisies all recently got axed,by another network, for having demos in the same area as shark's were last year.
Its a sad but true fact that CBS, like all other networks, is really only interested in profits. Profits come when the revenue(Determined by the demos) is greater than the cost to make the show. Shark had lots of on location shots, glitzy sets, etc. and Those things cost money. It wasn't making the profits that some of the other shows were making so it got cut.
That's it.
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The demographs were disappointing because CBS scheduled Shark at strange times on a rubbish Sunday evening instead of keeping it in it's old slot where it got the correct ratings, while CBS and ABC were not far sighted enough to allow their shows to recover from the disruptions caused by the Writer's Strike they're partially responsible for, and the Nielsen system is prehistoric. Idiots like Moonves and Zucker can't look forward more than seven days without their brains exploding, and you can't keep and gain viewers for a certain show if you keep moving it around. That's basic page one stuff.
I feel like I want to go into a potracted rant like Bruno Ganz did in Der Untergang.
I want to tell you why I stopped watching the show.
And you can call me all the names and labels you want to; but I am an audience member - and I stopped watching.
Because I am tired of having "gay" themes pushed at me all the time.
The episode where the older female attorney meets Shark and his young, female assistant across the table for a negotiation. And I had to witness a solicitation.
Yuck. I'm sick of it.
That's all.
Oh, and let me tell you about the very episode where I stopped watching "The Unit".
A very touching love letter was found in a salvaged Jeep from WWII. Turns out it was a "gay" thing. It didn't have to be. I felt it was done just for titillation.
Yuck. I'm sick of it.
So I turned the channel.
All you young people who think I am closed-minded:
Here's some perspective.
You were brought up on Jerry Springer.
You don't think ANYTHING is wrong.
You don't think ANYTHING should be judged as bad.
You view discrimination as bad.
Well, I was brought up to believe there are things that are right or wrong.
That discrimination doesn't mean unfairly picking on somebody - it means CHOOSING CAREFULLY.
"Gay" marriage, no.
Civil Unions - grudgingly OK.
Teen pregnancy, sex, profanity and sexualized content rampant on the airwaves?
No.
I vote with my feet.
And my thumb.
Thanks for listening.
People like you make me sick. I'm probably your age too. I certainly wasn't brought up on Jerry Springer and I think many things are wrong. Like your beliefs.
shareMoonves is an awful human being. Letterman and Stern had a long conversation in public about it, and god knows what goes on behind the scenes. The fact is that the networks make their living off creative people, but are ultimately run by extremely conservative and pompous non-creative types. A network needs someone who is at heart cheap and watches the budgets, because lots of creative people will never hold back their spending. However, to have effective creative ideas that have been developed and nurtured be held hostage and/or cut short is intolerable. The reality is that few people have the pull to make their creative decisions stick, but eventually all creative product also goes stale.
The more audience the networks lose to others will make them a bit more
responsible and supportive, you would think...
Shark was a good show, but I doubt its premise was all that long-lived. The current tv era is also one in which few shows garner majority audiences, so its harder to call a winner a winner.
Ultimately, tv and movies are a ripoff. They rarely do all that much for us besides short-term emotional manipulation, and obsessing over them keeps us from building the lives we should as youth and adults. Music and books offer much more. Movies occasionally offer a lot of inspiration. TV is a step down, except documentaries on PBS.
And you've decided to register and "contribute" to a website that's about movies, TV, and the people who write, direct, produce, act, etc. because....?
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"It's the only feasible thing that makes sense."
And your basis for this is what? Your retarded imagination?
The show was canceled because CBS are a bunch of *beep* ass *beep* *beep* who are incapable of running a network. They finally had a legitimately good drama series that wasn't a bland cookie-cutter procedural, so naturally they had to put a stop to that nonsense.
shareThe advertising for this show was obviously terrible as I had never heard of it before I caught an episode on FX (I think) the other week. I like James Woods & was surprised I had never heard of it.
Think it was really good & was really enjoying it. Can't believe it only ran for 1 & a half seasons & they are not even releasing s2 on dvd.....
Like the ideas behind it & the acting is great. Shame they chose to change the timeslots around (which will nearly always kill a show) & not let it develop as in the episodes I have seen so far, it's only getting better!
It got cancelled because of low ratings.
Its that man again!!
Jeri Ryan implies James Woods was being difficult on set and it brought the general mood amongst the production/acting crew on Shark down:
http://girlonguy.net/podcast/girl-on-guy-100-jeri-ryan/
(after the hour mark)
Some network should scoop up James Woods and do a similar show!
Woods is a great actor!
Actually there's a reason this show was cancelled that no one seems to want to talk about, and it's the same reason why a lot of shows between 2007 - 2008 got cancelled... the writers strike. That's why the show went from airing 22 episodes to a smaller 16, it's why you'll notice the gap between January and April in the airing, it's why they did the third part of the Waynes World story because they knew they were on thin ice and needed to wrap everything up. This point in TV history was the time that 12 shows were cancelled for almost no reason, several had shortened seasons and most were just postponed. Shark suffered the shortened season treatment and having the final few episodes postponed and put in a new time slot... so it was cancelled because of CBS beaurocracy and insanity and not just because of James Woods.
shareWhatever the reason for the cancellation, I enjoyed the show and was sorry to see it end so quickly.
I now DVR just about everything I view, so I wonder how valid the "rating" of live viewers is anyway. Calculating the popularity of streamed media is probably a lot more accurate.
One poster quit watching it because of some gay theme and he thinks homosexuality is horrible. Hey, I don't like murder, but I still watch and enjoy crime shows, virtually all of which concern murder cases.
Send lawyers, Glocks, and money!
Well nowadays they do throw in that streamed media into their calculations, but it also doesn't account for quality anymore. I mean if we looked back at Seinfeld or Married with children, based on ratings and reviews alone those would've been 1 season wonders but executives saw a good show and gave them longer runs. Now it's all a numbers game and not a quality game
shareThis is consistent with what I have heard. There were a number of shows that couldn't bounce back after the writers strike, and Shark was one of them. I'm guessing - and it's only a guess, I don't have numbers in front of me - that it was also expensive to produce. The pricier the show, the better the ratings (and thus the ad revenues) need to be in order for it to stay on the air.
shareOh many shows, in fact lemme link you to something
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_the_2007%E2%80%9308_Writers_Guild_of_America_strike_on_television#Effect_on_shows
That's got a full set of shows and just how they were affected. The other big thing the strike did was give Reality Shows a huge boom, because you could make them without needing to use writers and they filled up airtime that would've otherwise gone to reruns which really, no network want's to have to do during the best months in the year. Cost probably was a part of it, although both seasons did get good ratings (An 8.7 for season 1 and a 7.0 for season 2) but those ratings just might not've been good for a CBS show. That is the other big thing, on CBS (Indeed pretty much all of the big broadcast networks) you need to get huge ratings to stay on. Cable TV, you can go on forever with under a few million (Arrow, 4 seasons long so far, never going above 4 million... on broadcast, that's one season wonder numbers)