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Other Irish/Irish Mob movies or tv shows?


There was a thread here a long while ago listing a ton of other Irish and Irish Mob movies fans of TBD might enjoy. I say we recreate that because I'm in serious need of something to fill the void the Donnellys have left in my life.

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I agree. It's a great show, and the best part is you can buy the entire first season for like 20$ at most places. Definately worth it.

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FYC Oscars 2008
Joaquin Phoenix, Catherine Keener, Andy Griffith and Romala Garai

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the departed is an excellent irish mob movie

scorcese out did himself on that one

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Brotherhood kicks the s hit out of Black Donnellys

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Okay, this might not fall under this category, but... Veronica Mars is the show where I first heard of the Irish mafia. The one on that show (I think they appear during season 2) is badass.

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no. you are incorrect. the term mafia now applies to all forms of organized crime. sure, "the mafia" might be those italians, but ive heard of albanian, russian, chinese, japanese, and irish mafia.

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No you are wrong lol, yes the term Mafia was Originally used to identify a Sicilian crime organization but it is now commonly used to identify any ethnic or regionally based crime organization. Such as The Irish Mafia.

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technically, pianoman is right. the term mafia originated in italy/sicily and is therefore tied to the italians. however, i will state that since other big crime nationalities are popping up, they figured it'd be easier to stick with one name than to look up all those words in different languages. especially since the italian mafia seems to be the most popular.

As first lady of the American Stage, Helen Hayes, once said..."I'm going to kill you!"

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Yes, many ethnic organized crime groups have been referred to as Mafia by media et al. Do you suppose they actually call themselves Mafia?

What is funny is that the word "MAFIA" is actually an acronym for "Morte Alla Francia Italia Anella" which translated in english means "Death to the French is Italy's Cry". The acronym served as one of the names of the secret sicilian society/government which was trying to rise against French rule.

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And thats what we call a backronym folks.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia#Etymology

There are several theories about the origin of the term. The Sicilian adjective mafiusu may derive from the slang Arabic مهياص mahyas, meaning "aggressive boasting, bragging", or marfud meaning "rejected". Roughly translated, it means "swagger", but can also be translated as "boldness, bravado". In reference to a man, mafiusu in 19th century Sicily was ambiguous, signifying a bully, arrogant but also fearless, enterprising, and proud, according to scholar Diego Gambetta.[7]

According to the Sicilian ethnographer Giuseppe Pitrè, the association of the word with the criminal secret society was made by the 1863 play I mafiusi di la Vicaria (The Beautiful (people) of Vicaria) by Giuseppe Rizzotto and Gaetano Mosca, which is about criminal gangs in the Palermo prison.[8] The words Mafia and mafiusi (plural of mafiusu) are never mentioned in the play, and were probably put in the title because it would add local flair.

The association between mafiusi and criminal gangs was made by the association the play's title made with the criminal gangs that were new to Sicilian and Italian society at the time. Consequently, the word "mafia" was generated from a fictional source loosely inspired by the real thing and was used by outsiders to describe it. The use of the term "mafia" was subsequently taken over in the Italian state's early reports on the phenomenon. The word "mafia" made its first official appearance in 1865 in a report by the prefect of Palermo, Filippo Antonio Gualterio.

Leopoldo Franchetti, an Italian deputy who travelled to Sicily and who wrote one of the first authoritative reports on the mafia in 1876, saw the Mafia as an "industry of violence" and described the designation of the term "mafia": "the term mafia found a class of violent criminals ready and waiting for a name to define them, and, given their special character and importance in Sicilian society, they had the right to a different name from that defining vulgar criminals in other countries."[9] He saw the Mafia as deeply rooted in Sicilian society and impossible to quench unless the very structure of the island's social institutions were to undergo a fundamental change.[10]

According to popular myth, the word Mafia was first used in the Sicilian rebellion - the Sicilian Vespers - against the oppressive Anjou rule on 30 March 1282. Mafia is the acronym for "Morta Alla Francia, Italia Anela" (Italian for "Death to France. This is Italy's cry"). However, this version is discarded by most serious historians nowadays.

Try reading. Its helpful in not making you look ignorant.

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You Wrote - "Try reading. Its helpful in not making you look ignorant."

As opposed to the elitist condescending intellect who's only form of accolades received is from patting oneself on the back? Or the insecure geek who needs to prove his own self worth by proving others wrong?

I can smell your stink a mile a way. It's origin is the hole in your face that you probably never allow to close for fear someone smarter may get a word in edge wise.

You wrote - "However, this version is discarded by most serious historians nowadays"

The word MOST is very telling. There are some, albeit few who still maintain that the origin of the word lies in said acronym. I know this because I READ it!!!!!! I do not contend to be an authority but I have done ample research on the subject and agree with the few.

It is you who appear ignorant by your lack of acknowledgement that while you may not agree, it is still accepted by some.

Before you come back with more rhetoric, I will stipulate that I wrote my opinion as a fact. However it was not written to be authoritive or corrective. It was written as a simple interjection into a trivial conversation. While you may disagree, I find both of our posts equally unimportant (as you should as well).

Regards

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omg you were wrong just get over it.

"Nothing in this movie makes sense." said the narcoleptic.

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I was over it two years ago when I posted it. Incidentally, it was never about me being right or wrong. It was about a condescending reply from an elitist troll over a trivial post who, in my opinion, needed to be taken down a notch.

At least he/she made an attempt at proving me wrong (Which is more than I can say for you).

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i think one of the best irish mob films was "State of Grace" with Sean Penn,Gary Oldman and Ed Harris.You can rent or buy it at any blockbuster or best buy.Also of course "The Departed","Miller's Crossing","On the Waterfront,though it doesn't really go into much detail about the mob,if i think of some more I'll post them.

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also Boondock Saints is a great irish movie,but not really about the irish mob.It deals with 2 irish brothers and the italian and russian mobs.

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The departed is a good movie, it has a donnely feel to it

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Black irish is a good Irish movie.....also has Jimmy from TBD in it.

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mystic river is also good

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Actually the first time I saw the Black Donnelly's all I could think of was Boondock Saints. Irish brothers start taking out the Russian Mob. If you've never seen it and liked the Black Donnelly's, you'll love Boondock Saints.

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it was the reverse for me. I saw the Boondock Saints first and then TBD.... but they are both good. Angels With Dirty Faces is awesome as well as The Departed. On The Waterfront didnt have to do with irish did it?

RIP River Phoenix, Brad Renfro, Heath Ledger

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I suggest The Wind That Shakes The Barley, it's not about the Irish mob, but it is about the IRA and that era of Irish history and it's good.

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The Boxer!

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Anyone see Johnny Was? I thought that was a pretty good movie. It didn't get good reviews but it does mix quite a few different things. While not an Irish Mob movie, it is about the IRA.

It has the Brixton Jamaican underground and the Irish Mob in it. Pretty good film.

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Irish Gangster Movies
(not in chronological order)

- The Departed
- The Boondock Saints
- What Doesn`t Kill You
- Ash Wednesday
- Black Irish
- State Of Grace
- Monument Ave.
- Southie
- Last Man Standing
- The Pope Of Greenwich Village
- Road To Perdition
- Miller`s Crossing
- Mystic River
- Gone Baby Gone
- Gangs Of New York
- Veronica Guerin
- The Boxer
- Johnny Was
- Snatch (just for Brad Pitt`s amazing character)

Coming up:
2010 Emerald City
Plot: A look into the world of Irish organized crime in the Hell's Kitchen neighborhood of New York City.


Irish Gangster TV Shows
- The Black Donnellys
- Brotherhood
- Veronica Mars (2nd and 3rd seasons have a prolific Irish gang in it)


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- James Dean

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The Wendy Williams Show is a great Irish mob tv show!

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Miller's Crossing
The Departed
Angels With Dirty Faces
Road to Perdition
Boondock Saints
Gangs of New York

"You didn't bring enough pigs to stop me."

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The Molly McGuires was part gang/part political.


"S h i t happens in mysterious ways, its wonders to perform"

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