magnumdb (Thu May 29 2008 20:30:23) --------------------------------------------------------
I take offense to you saying a "real audience" would eat him alive.
A real comedy club audience, a Comedy Zone, Funnybone, or Improv audience. They want jokes, well-written and well-performed.
You say "There is a reason Zach and Jeanine Garafalo and Kathy Griffin and all these other 'alternative' comics don't play regular comedy clubs". A reason huh? Firstly, you don't actually give your reason.
Actually, I implied the reason, assuming those reading the post would retain the preceding information. Giving too much credit, it turns out. So for you, I'll be explicit: the reason is they can't entertain a regular comedy club audience, and can't draw attendance. That should be clear enough.
And secondly, there's no way that you could know the actual reason, if any, why they don't play "regular clubs" (another subjective term - what do you mean by 'regular' anyway?)
As for "regular clubs", see above. And, I would "know the actual reason" because I was a standup for seven years (I've shared the stage with Garafalo and Griffin) and recall those alt comics getting horrible club responses and no work. You can read their past interviews, where they acknowledge having to create their own stages (David Cross, Jeff Garlin, Bob Oedenkirk, among them). And in Jeanine Garafalo's awful HBO standup special, she actually acknowledges having to do 55 minutes (as a contractual obligation, hence the thread title) even though the audience has turned on her. Nobody loves watching a comic eat it more than other comics. But audiences don't pay with their time and money to come watch a "work in progress". It would be one thing if Zach actually COULD entertain a mainstream audience, but he can't.
I'm sorry you didn't like the format of the DVD, but don't take your negative feelings for it and use that as a basis to make false, unsubstantiated, and assumed statements.
Everything I say is correct. I am going to guess that you are a young female who has never been to a 'real' comedy club, otherwise you wouldn't have posted the above.
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dodgersrock
15 years ago
"And, I would "know the actual reason" because I was a standup for seven years (I've shared the stage with Garafalo and Griffin)"
JayCeezy I find it incredibly hard to believe that you could be funny enough to be a standup comedian.
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RainmanCT
9 years ago
They want jokes, well-written and well-performed.
I guess having done stand-up comedy gives you license to speak for what everyone at these clubs wants and does not want. I'm sure that talking out of your ass got you a lot of laughs.
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