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Is this the best we can do?


I just saw a promo for this and thought to myself... really? Is this what we're coming up with now? More stereotypical "outback blokes" to sell to the American viewers, who seem to eat this stuff up, except this time we've got a hero dog to bring all the kiddies along for the PG ride.

And then I thought... why do these films get funding? And who is doing it? Well, in this case it is funded by National Bank of California.

Come on Australia. Why can't we fund our own films? Then we might have a chance at making films that Australians want to see.

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I had the same opinion when I saw the preview, but my friend took me along as her guest to the premier and I have to say I was pleasantly surprised.

I'm only 23, grew up in rural WA and all of the characters remind me of people I have met, including friends of my dad who is a prospector. It shows a very accurate depiction of the lifestyle and the reality of what it is like in a mining community, with a little poetic license.

There wasn't a single dry eye in the cinema and I heard plenty of laughs throughout the entirety of the film, so obviously I wasn't the only person who enjoyed it.

Maybe give the movie a chance before you go bashing it on a discussion board. It is a hell of a lot better than "Australia" or any other movie that has come out of Aus in a long long time!

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How about waiting until you see the actual movie before complaining about it?

Go take a step outside - see what's shaking in the real world.

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To answer TheMachinistSleeps - The film was fully funded by Roadshow Distribution (ie an Australian Distributor), Screen Australia, ScreenWest, SAFC along with the Australian production company & Australian sponsors. National Bank of California acted only as the commercial banker and did not invest or finance the film. The film was primarily made for Australians, not Americans. Here's a "thought" for you.. Perhaps you should watch the RED DOG movie before you bag it on the internet? Go back to sleep..

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You sound like you took my thread as a personal insult to you, which is why you feel the need to attack me personally. Maybe you've got something to do with the making of this film so you feel the need to defend it in such a rude manner. Relax champ.

But anyway, I'm sure we have commercial banks in Australia. And the only place I've seen this film advertised was on satellite TV (and only a few days before release date too). Made for America.

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No. Not made for America; just has an American lead. I thought it added to the plot, for a very Australian film. You are not commensurate with true blue Australian attitude mate, as it is well depicted in this film. Soooo scared of outsiders eh? Ooooohhh, an AMERICAN.... Touch xenophobic are we... I can just hear the "please explain" coming..

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The point, you missed it.

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Not only Americans, but Greeks, Italians (from Abruzzi), Asians and even people from Melbourne
; )

Fave exchange:

"What makes you think a skinny yank like you can take out a girl like that, when there's real men like us around?"

"I bathe"

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Strongly disagree that this film was "soft" and made for Americans.

As an American expat, who actually lives and works in The Pilbara-- for the same company, fwiw--I feel suitably qualified to tell you this movie is a very accurate depiction of what it's like up here, and that that depiction is not going to mean a hill of beans to the average American who's never even been to Australia, much less experienced life in a remote mining community. So many parts of this movie had me nodding my head and saying , Yup, that's the way it is, mate.
Aesthetics, mod-cons and technological advancements aside, little has changed up here in a social context. I mean, there many many more people, but the mining industry is really rather a small world. Go to a new site where you think you know no one, and chances are you're wrong. And if you don't know anyone there, it's almost a certainty that you're linked with someone there via mutual friends. Sometimes it's almost surreal and somewhat smothering!

This movie, IMO, was made for Australians, and in particular Australians living and working in the Northwest in the mines and support services. The fact that it may have been partially funded by non-Australian money is of little consequence. Let foreign investors pay to have it made and then sit back and enjoy the accolades Australia gets for producing such a story. I have no problem with that at all. It's not as if this is a propaganda film, bent on brainwashing and convincing people to join a subversive movement or anything.

Those of us who reside up here understand the importance of stories like this; Red Dog is not just a feel good movie. There are many a lesson to be learned: the value of friendship, loyalty, respect, and perseverance. The importance of being independent while cultivating relationships......it's an entertaining story with a purpose.

M generally dubious of "australian made" films. I have watched so many that are so boring and yawn inducing (Two Hands, anyone? Have never understood its appeal and why it's considered great....). I read the book Red Dog, and loved it, but I wondered how they could take a book that took me 2 hours to read and make it not a movie worth watching, but I was so pleasantly surprised. I will be buying a copy of it to keep in my collection of DVDs, which is no small feat....I am notoriously choosey.



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Nelson, cant wait to see the film, looks good and Margaret and David seemed to love it. I understand your wanting to set people straight about the facts re: financing etc but probably no need to be quite to defensive. I have a feeling word of mouth praise and critical success will do a better job of defending the film and putting bums in seats that arguing on internet forums :) Congrats on what looks like a great Aussie film!

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Mayhem777 - It looks like I was right about you all along. You obviously have a bias because you were somehow involved in making this film. You should probably learn to take a hit if you're going to be in this business, even though I said nothing about you personally.

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So..you haven't seen it yet?

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I'll wait until the 10/10 ratings from production staff get averaged out by real viewers first, and then decide.

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Why don't you view the film first before making a post based on your viewing of the promo/trailer? Do you really think the people viewing these posts are ALL stupid?

The other posts that corrected you regarding the funding of this film were quiet right to do so, as you offered factually incorrect information and there was nothing constructive to match the subject title of your original post.

I'm surprised that you felt that the other posters were attacking you, yet you deem it okay to insult our intelligence. I believe those posters excerised a great deal of restraint in response to your remarks.

Here's a thought. Make your next post AFTER you have viewed the film. Then you will have an opportunity to cast forth an opinion that may be taken seriously, if that's possible.

Zzzzzzzzzz.....



Locked my wire coat-hanger in the car - good thing that I always carry spare keys in my pocket :)

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Why is everyone so defensive? How do you know that the OP hasn't already seen the film, and SHOCK! HORROR! didn't like it?

I find that if you say you don't like a popular film, that people ask "Have you even seen it?" , as if to say "You can't have seen it, or you would see that it is the most flawless, perfectly-made film ever made?"

Even if you do see the film and don't like it, people will say that you didn't "get it" or something.

Why can't someone not like a film you like? Everyone is entitled to their opinion!

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Geez mate - gay answer. What's your next film then? "Bloodsucking Zombie Vampire Stripers"?

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GREAT reply MH777. Good information followed by correct statements. Its funny how the detractors when quietened all start to say "ohh are we offended are we - don't take it so hard". For my penny's worth; I was sitting in the start of the film thinking "oh no - not another American trying to do Aussie"; but when it became clear that he was meant to be American, it added a great deal to the film rather than detracted. This was no pandering to the US audience; it was appropriate and in place. I liked the fact the outsider, an American, became central. Its actually in keeping with true Aussie spirit, that outsiders are welcomed and totally accepted. People my generation and older know this. What a great film, true to Australia, no pandering to anyone; accepting of everyone without bigotry or b*llSh*t. The story is said to be true; quite a bit of it must be. Any movie embellishes a bit; they have to. But the main part of this was believable and struck chord with real Australia. An excellent film.

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I too thought the exact same thing when seeing the trailer.
But having literally just got back from seeing it, i just had to come on here to tell everyone what a FANTASTIC movie this is. It would have to go down as the best film i've seen this year and I'm quite confident in saying its probably the best Australian film i've ever seen.

DO NOT let the trailer put you off, this is a fantastic, touching, heartwarming film. Its not about 'outback blokes', its about how a dog influenced a community and the lives it changed.

PS: Take you tissues.

**Accio Harry's virginity!**

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More stereotypical "outback blokes"

Jesus. Do us Aussies ever stop whinging? People whinge that Australian movies are despressing and are about criminals and drug addicts in big cities. People whinge when Aussie movies feature the outback.

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Depressing movies can be great, and most movies about drug addicts are also depressing, and involve criminals obviously. Those movies are infinitely more relatable than fairies and rainbows and hero dogs. They show the real world - not some kind of caricature of outback life.

If you haven't led an extremely sheltered life then there is a good chance you have been affected by drug addiction (whether it was you or someone you knew) and crime, but I don't know anyone who has been affected by a magical dog.

I don't know which Australian movies you're talking about exactly. Most of them are just badly done. It isn't the subject matter that is bad; it is the poor execution and reuse of the same old actors in every movie. If I had to make a list of 5 good Australian movies I would struggle to do so. We don't take chances, because nobody has the money to do it, because none of the movies they made were successful enough.

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I don't know which Australian movies you're talking about exactly. Most of them are just badly done


Riiiiiiight. Because theres so many good films coming out of the USA? Michael Bay films are well done?

Red Dog, Animal Kingdom, Snowtown, Samson and Delilah are great films that are well made.

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To the original poster -

I read your post and thought to myself 'if I click to the last few posts I bet he/she is in a petty argument with everyone and getting personal'.

It then happened.

Sigh.

Moving away from that, I think the biggest issue people had with your post is that your statement is based on not even seeing the film. Obviously not a good starting point.

I just watched it, all the components were dodgy but the story wins out. Acting, directing, dodgy effects - it suffered a lot but when the point rolls round you can't help but feel exactly what the filmmakers intended.

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Riiiiiiight. Because theres so many good films coming out of the USA? Michael Bay films are well done?


lmao. It always comes down to Michael Bay with some people. For every sh*tty "popular" American director you name, I can name you a dozen talented American directors, that make good movies.

Though I agree that the Australian movies that you listed (the ones I've seen anyway) were pretty great.

You saw Dingleberries?

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how is this movie stereotypical when its based on a true story? its not something they made up for the US so they can imagine us all riding kangaroos to work.
personally i think red dog was a FANTASTIC movie and like they describe it, heart-warming. i cried in the movie and after the movie, hows that for emotional.
just because we are living in a modern country doesnt mean the rest of Australia is like this.. plus it was a while ago when red dog existed in the real world. the dog wasnt magical he was just smart, how many people do you know do drugs? let alone in a deserted town in Dampier. its a whole different place compared to the city they are just showing what and how things were in that time and location.
IT HAPPENED A LONG TIME AGO, its obviously a movie about the past :]

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I felt the same way before seeing it, but it really is a surprise, it is a great movie...

BUT i have to agree I really hate the way so many australian movies have to portray us like this.

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Advech: Mate, we ARE like this, or lots of us anyway. And it's not just some burden that the Pilbara has to bear - come to the Bowen Basin, the camps are full of exactly the same sorts of blikes. Out for the dollar and the isolation.
As for the sleepy machinist - how CAN a thread extend so far on trivia like he/she writes, having not even seen the film> One of the tragedies of misuse of the internet.

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The wife and i saw this today.
We loved it.
Your talking through your wrong hole:-)

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"You're" - it is a contraction of "you are". Learn it - use it.

I will even use it in a sentence for you: If you're old enough to get married then you're old enough to grasp the basic elements of the English language.

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Are you picking on people's grammar? Are you serious? Troll got trolled.

No movies suck, it is all opinionated. (Well, Never Say Never is an expectation.)

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Yes. If he wants to bring out the insults then I can play that game too. :-)

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AHHHHH!!! Grammar Nazis! Just when this thread couldn't get stupider!
Listen people! Ignore people like this. They stir other up for fun. I believe the term is "Troll"

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