Come on it is a total ripoff
Medium is about a woman detective who solves mysteries in Phoenix, Arizona
Raines is about a man detective who solves mysteries (crimes) in LA, Calforinia
dude its not.. the ghosts are not ghosts but hallucinationsssssss
shareThen my guess would be that if you think it's a ripoff... then... ummm, don't watch it and let the rest of it watch it and decide for ourselves before posting judgement.
I don't know... I could be wrong, but- that seems like a logical solution to me.
it seems more like a psych rip-off to me...but i'll watch anyway
shareThe pilot was quite good actually. It had a completely different feel to it than Medium and Psych.
shareMedium is not cool, especially not lately.
-Patricia Arquette can't act. She's just confused and far away all of the time.
-The kids aren't cute, but they're trying to be.
-The audience is often confused, so you feel exhausted rather than entertained by the end of the show.
-Evil mediums, the angel of death, and other supernatural characters make her seem less remarkable than if she was a loner.
I'm not saying Raines will be a success, but at least Goldblum is funny and quirky and therefore more fun to watch, and judging from the previews it looks like it will be a lot tighter than Medium, and won't be distracted by cute kids every week.
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Okay, I must totally 100% disagree with you about every single point you made about Medium.
-Patricia Arquette is a phenomenal actress (did you not see episodes this season like "The One Behind the Wheel" "Be Kind, Rewind" and "Second Opinion")?
-Bridgette is so funny and Ariel's problems are actually pretty interesting.
-Do you want to have the entire story in the first 5 minutes? The confusion is a good thing and adds to the story line.
-Can you seriously say that you did not like episodes like "The One Behind the Wheel" where Allison is possessed and "We Had a Dream" where the evil medium escapes from prison and goes on a killing spree? If you can, your taste in television is obviously very different from everyone else I know.
That's my rebuttal. The intertwining of the family story, the crime, and the dreams is perfect in my opinion. It's really one of kind. You can't compare it to Raines, as there is not a family story (at least in the pilot) and the dead people he sees only know what he knows. They have totally different feels. I am a huge Medium fan, and will probably be watching this show as well.
I don't watch it often enough to know what the name of each episode is, but I think the gimmick is wearing itself out.
The confusion is a good thing and adds to the story line.
No, the confusion is just a lazy way to pretend there's twists and suspence, but there's really no way to determine what's real or follow any kind of 'story line' until you get the full picture at the end of the episode. Watching Allison regularly question her sanity and her boss/husband lose faith in her isn't amusing, especially when you know there's going to be a break-through before the show is over. It's hard to root for a woman I'd be very tempted to divorce or have committed.
Raines looks to be more inspired by The Sixth Sense than Medium, which was a lot tighter and more interesting to follow.
A strong mind can fuel a frail body.
I will agree with you that this show does not remind me a whole lot of Medium because the feel is totally different.
Also, I don't know how often you watch Medium, but last Wednesday Devalos took her at her word several times. And because of it another character was able to pick up the clues left behind by knowing something before it happens. Also Joe seems to accept her dreams more than he even did last season. I don't think any of them are thinking of divorcing or committing her. And if you want to talk suspence and twists, I didn't see that ending comming last Wednesday (not because I was unable to follow it)and it sure scared me enough to have my heart beat real fast.
But no matter how much I type I know I won't be able to change your mind and I'll just have to accept that.
I don't think any of them are thinking of divorcing or committing her.
Nobody on the show is, I'm saying that I probably would if I were in their position, which makes it less fun to watch.
I don't watch it regularly (I'm obviously not a fan), but it seems like she's 'waking up' more lately. Like the show is continuously saying "PSYCHE!" It's exhausting.
A strong mind can fuel a frail body.
...it seems like she's 'waking up' more lately.
What, do you want her to spend the rest of her life asleep? The show is about her dreaming and about how she is able to help catch the bad guys with the aid of the dreams, so do you not want her to dream? Or do you want less? Or do the episodes where almost the entire episode is a dream annoy you (I can really only think of 2 cases of that)? What exactly do you mean? I personally like the dreams.
No... and I thought I explained it pretty well already.
The problem is that the audience isn't clear on what is real and what's actually happening. The 'waking up' scenes pose as twists in the plot, but they're really just lazy plot devices and are needlessly disorienting.
I get what the show's gimmick is and it worked well in the first few episodes, but it's wearing out.
It would work better if the dreams were more surreal or stylized. It's lame when a scene is panning out as reality, only to have something shocking happen that makes her wake up.
A strong mind can fuel a frail body.
I watch Medium regularly and can say that this is not a spinoff. First of all, in Medium, the main character Alison is a mother and works for the DA's office. At least 50% of each episode is shot inside Alison's home, which shows that the series focuses alot on the family. Also not only can Alison see the dead, but apprently she can see the future as well. From what I understand of Raines, it is more comical and the main character can only see dead victims and no other dead people, unlike Alison who can see any dead people like her father in law. Nor can he see the future. The only thing that the two are related is the whole psychic thing. Since both shows are on NBC, I doubt NBC would put another Medium ripoff on its own network.
shareOkay, ThaMuzicAddict, I just guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
I will agree with everyone that says Raines and Medium are really not that similar. As you can probably tell, I am quite familar with Medium, and Medium is for a large part a family show, and at least in the pilot, there is none of that in Raines. The only way they are similar is the crime solving and the seeng dead people thing.
I have to jump in here- musicaddict you are really wrong with this one. If you are still disoriented at the dream sequences you clearly don't watch nearly enough to even judge this show. At this point it is pretty much known (and meant to be) that if something odd or out of place is happening (especially during the opening sequence) Allison is having a dream. If it is still confusing to you maybe you should revert back to watching kids shows. Secondly, the entire plot revolves around her dreams, if you don't enjoy that that's personal opinion, but not a reason to bash the show. The dreams themselves are meant to evolve as the episode goes on. Each time giving you a little more, giving you a chance to "solve" it before Allison does, but leaving it many times to Allison and the crew to solve it first. Lastly, the dreams are meant to be surreal and in my opinion they are. While they lead to solving the mystery that the plot revolves around there are often times really odd out of place or incorrect things thrown in. This is something that adds to the story and the mystery as well. I also would like to note that Allison Dubois IS a real person. And many of the episodes are based off of real life experiences and ways her "dreams" helped her aid the police- this is a major part of every episodes plot that you are criticizing and it is totally REAL. So if none if you still feel that none of the rest of my argument destroyed your points- that should put the nail in the coffin so to speak.
musicaddict you are really wrong with this one
No, I'm expressing my opinion that the show is getting old and isn't fun to watch anymore. My opinion isn't any more right or wrong than yours. It doesn't mean I'm not smart enough to grasp it or need to watch kids' shows, it's just not the kind of show I'd prefer to watch.
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you actually expressed that you never really liked the show that much- and gave points to back that up. I mearly shut them down. So it's not really just opinions at this point.
So if I don't like something, I shouldn't give points to back that up?
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"the audience isn't clear" and points like that are your opinions and not facts. So please do not try to pass them off like all viewers believe that, because it seems that you are in the minority with ideas such as that. So as I stated before a lot of what you said was just invalid and that's all.
Come on. Do you really think that there can't be two shows on television that have at least one thing in common?
Allison DuBois is not a detective. For starters.
Then there's the fact that Medium is really about a psychic balancing her personal life with the work she does, not only with crimes but with the people in the office.
Then there's the fact that most people, the overwhelming majority, think psychics are quacks anyway.
Raines merely has a problem talking to himself. Really, when you think about it, people who talk to themselves are just having conversations with someone they feel familiar with. In Raines' case, the victims of crimes are people he gradually becomes more and more familiar with - as his active intellect gathers more information about them.
The series do have to do with people who can't be seen. But the similarity ends there. It's not that big a deal.
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-Patricia Arquette can't act. She's just confused and far away all of the time.
"Come on it is a total ripoff"
Come on, it totally isn't a ripoff. That would mean, Medium is ripoff of The Dead Zone, or Ghost Wisperer is a ripoff of either/both.
"Medium is about a woman detective who solves mysteries in Phoenix, Arizona"
Actually, it's about a woman who works for the DA's office, who has dreams. She dreams of the dead, dreams of past and future events. She can either solve a crime or stop one from happening. She's not a cop, she's a civilian. Big difference.
"Raines is about a man detective who solves mysteries (crimes) in LA, Calforinia"
I just saw the pilot. You're right, he's a detective who solves mysteries. But, there are a lot of shows with that exact same theme, so that doesn't mean this is a ripoff of Medium, but just another take on the crime genre. He also doesn't see dead people. He 'sees' a representation of the victim, but it's not the actual ghost, and the representation only knows what Raines knows - because it's all in his head. And he hasn't always been like this - in the pilot, it's obvious this is the first time it's happened to him.
It does look like something hastily thrown together to compete with Shark.
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OK, some facts, since I was on the set for the filming of one show (my son is a writer on Raines)
The show has nothing whatsoever in common with Medium. Raines is having an internal dialogue with the victims of the crimes he's investigating. They're hallucinations, and he knows it.
The show was not hastily thrown together. The pilot was shot January of '06, and they began in the writer's room last June. The show was orignally going to air in January, but was moved back. Shark nor any other show was a catylist for this one.
The show my son wrote has to do with Raines' ex-wife, and has strong familial elements. It takes a while to flesh out a character.
Just give the show a chance, and I think you'll enjoy it on it's own terms. Goldblum is terrific.
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> Raines is having an internal dialogue with the victims of the crimes he's investigating. They're hallucinations, and he knows it.
So, it is basically Monk, in that the detective simply looks at all the clues and then figures out how the crime was done. The apparent difference between the two is that Monk just manipulates the clues in his head while Raines creates a visual representation of those clues in the form of a hallucination of the victim that he can talk to.
That's okay, I guess. I do like Monk and I would always welcome well-done copies of the show.
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A little (very little) knowledge is a dangerous thing. They're NOT GHOSTS. They're hallucinations. But I have a feeling the fifteen or so other replies probably pointed that out.
shareI thought the show was awesome...and I didn't find it one bit like Psych, Monk or Medium for that matter(although I do like and watch all three of those shows) I find them all vastly different and enjoyable for different reasons...I thought Raines was actually what it was supposed to be...a great show with a crazy a$$, hillariously sarcastic detective and I can't wait to see more...
Hallucinations, dreams, obsessive compulsive disorder and fake psych-ee do not even come close to resembling one another...
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