Why ignore mythology?


If you are going to make a movie based on Greek myths why would you completely ignore the source material? EVERYTHING about this story was wrong, even little things that it would have been just as easy to get right.
Perseus mother wasnt Ecrisuis wife, but his daughter.
She didnt die in the casket but was also rescued by the fisherman, who she later married.
Poseidon released the monster on Argos, not Hades. And he did it because Queen Cassiopeia compared HERSELF to a goddess (or a water nymph I think) not her daughter Andromeda.
It wasn't Perseus against the gods at all. They all helped him by giving him gifts. It was just Poseidon that was ticked off.
And, of course, Perseus ends up with Andromeda not Io(who doesnt belong anywhere in this story)
I understand if you want to take some liberties, throw in some Djinn, leave out Medusa's sisters, whatever. But why would you change the WHOLE STORY?!?
Several of the actors commented that they took the role because their children like Greek mythology. Their kids must be really angry.


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Yeah pretty much. :\ Greek mythology has survived for as long as it has because IT'S ENTERTAINING!! Why change it up like that? :(


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I totally agree. I recently took a Greek Mythology class in college and was looking forward to seeing a movie interpretation of the story. But I feel that I was let down. I will probably still watch the sequel when it comes out (on DVD) because I really do enjoy Greek Mythology. But, I do hope they try to stick to the mythology rather than blatantly making it up as they go.

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The reason why they did that was because they wanted to make
the classic plot Good vs Evil. In the original "Clash of the Titans",
you can find it's more related to Greek Mythology, Poseidon released the Kraken,
Perseus' mother didn't die when she escaped, etc.

This movie it's supposed to be a remake of that film,
they just decided to change what they have created in original movie though.

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I agree. It would have been very nice if the movie followed the mythology but if we put this aside, the film is a very entertaining story. It might not respect the original film to the extent many wanted it to, but it is a pretty good individual film. I'd go as far to say that this film is very underrated. The recent movie, the "A-Team" can be classified in the same class as this. Fans of thr originals did not appreciate the direction that newer films take.

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I never saw the original but thought it was good.

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The original was ok. It was pretty campy but it has a strong cult following. That's why this movie 'tanked'. Too many people preferred the original to this because of its nostalgia.

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How do you know it's good if you never saw it?

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What I hated about this was how Perseus never confronted the king on allowing his men to rip down Zeus' statue which led to Hades killing Pereus' family. He had the moment to do it and did nothing.

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I agree with you. I enjoy this movie. Now as a movie based on Greek mythology it is completely off, but as a good action movie its perfect. It's definetly underrated. I've never been one to judge a movie on source material. I base a movie on its cinematic accomplishments. It's an entertaining, decetnly acted action movie. No complaints here.

When the hero becomes the villain....who becames the hero?

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mythology is meant to be changed though, there's no strict rule that one must stay true to mythological fact....eh

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True!! So why change 95% of it and not ALL of it??? Just go ahead and name them George and Bertha (for lack of better names right now) and then you are 100% true to YOUR mythology - and you'll be doing the mythology of others a great favor.

Seeing this movie made me nostalgic of those despicable "adaptations" made by Cinecita in Italy back in the 50's and 60's that had Hercules fighting off aliens and stuff! One of Hollywood's finest moments, when it comes to respecting the legacy of others!!



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As long as I've known myself I've always been a Mythology intusiast, so I understand what you are saying, I really do, and i felt the plot was all wrong.

HOWEVER, once you get it out of your system, it's an entertaining movie no more no less.

My gf loved was loving it, so didnt bother to keep pointing out the flaws in it and i guess after that the suspension of believe did the rest =)

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People don't ignore mythology.

Look how many read the bible.

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I don't think they wanted to make a film for atheists. I think they just needed a clear, black and white antagonist. In today's lazy filmmaking world, there can't be any ambiguity about who the good guy is and who the bad guy is. So they made the gods petty, vindictive douchebags, so that the fanboy audience they were trying to reach wouldn't be confused as to who the bad guys were, and they would know who to hack up with their swords in the video game...

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Greek Mythology has tons of great antagonists. One need only look at the myth of Heracles to see that. Perseus is surrounded by a number of them.

I don't chalk this deliberate characterization of the Olympian Pantheon as evil to simple laziness. Hollywood is a vile place these days; they're so out of touch with the rest of America, and I daresay the world, that the way this film was made was precisely what I'd expect from an industry that mocks traditional values routinely the way they do. You could say their hubris got the better of them in this case. They didn't even attempt to hide their contempt.

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Greek Mythology has tons of great antagonists. One need only look at the myth of Heracles to see that. Perseus is surrounded by a number of them.

I don't chalk this deliberate characterization of the Olympian Pantheon as evil to simple laziness. Hollywood is a vile place these days; they're so out of touch with the rest of America, and I daresay the world, that the way this film was made was precisely what I'd expect from an industry that mocks traditional values routinely the way they do. You could say their hubris got the better of them in this case. They didn't even attempt to hide their contempt.
I agree with just about everything you've said -- save for one: do you honestly think that Hollywood is only a vile place now? Hollywood is, and has always been, one of the primary tools to disseminate atheist propaganda, amongst other things, like consumerism, the false "American Dream", etc. One would think that the early films were little more than vehicles to get people to smoke cigarettes and drink booze. The whole PR thing started at Versailles with Freud's nephew, Edward Bernays. He figured if he could sell defeat to his enemies, he could sell anything he wanted to his friends/allies. And so it began. And Hollywood was at the center of it; always has been.

Just my 2 cents worth.

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Hmmm...in the source material they were petty and vindictive and very human like. Geesus, were we reading the same stories?

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No, because obviously you didn't. Or, you only read what you wanted to read.

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What a load of horsesh*t considering the source material always made the Gods faulty. They were often cruel to humanity and would toy with them often. That is what made mythology much more fun

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No, not really.

The Greek Gods were Super-Human, Ultra Human, but the operative word is "human."

And no, they weren't necessarily cruel, and wouldn't often toy with them. It depended wholly on the situation.

Take Heracles. Why did Hera go after him? She had it in for him from the start, but why? Because Heracles is the SON OF ZEUS, her husband! And he's not HER SON, not like Apollo is in some of the myths. Heracles was Zeus's son and he was proud of him. But Hera couldn't get back at the King of the Gods, right, becuase he's the *beep* King of the Gods who could kick the *beep* out of her at any time for any reason.

So, her alternative was to place Heracles through a bunch of trials, in order to humiliate him, denigrate him, and ultimately destroy him. Could anything less than the Son of Zeus defeat the Hydra?

Was she being cruel? Sure, but there's a reason for it.

Before you spout about this kind of thing, it might help to not only read the material, but understand it.

Because morons like you can't have your cake and eat it too. You have to understand the causes of such things. The Medusa story as told by this *beep* movie is an indication that a like-minded moron had a hand in writing this movie - he took the whole context of the Ovid myth and he twisted it to suit his agenda.

I mean, seriously, don't lie about such things, dude. Too many people know the truth.

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About the producers/director wanting to make the film for atheist I agree with you 200%, It's right in our face we see it everyday. But the comment "Let this be a lesson, ladies: If you dress like a slut, and act like a slut, do not be surprised to find one day facing a man who won't take no for an answer." Women get attacked whether or not they dress a certain way everyday. It's not always the women fault for being attacked. Men need to respect themselves and not act like sluts and horny animals as well. That's something you need to think about and teach as well before you start to give advice on IMDB.

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Women get attacked whether or not they dress a certain way everyday. It's not always the women fault for being attacked. Men need to respect themselves and not act like sluts and horny animals as well. That's something you need to think about and teach as well before you start to give advice on IMDB.


The point of the Ovid myth of Medusa is a moral for both men and women. If you behave in a certain way, achieving what you want but don't like it, tough. In other words, Careful What You Wish For, You Might Just Get It.

This myth is specifically pointed at women, and whether or not women get attacked (and women more and more frequently are doing the attacking) is beside the point. I'm willing to bet that 90% of women assaulted by sexual predators have a lot of responsibility on their part as well. Not that this excuses their rapist either, but women, in particular, want a life without accountability for what they do.

You could say that, especially if you dress and act like a slut, now you've taken on the occupational hazards of a slut. You don't see too many nuns getting raped, at least not in the west, anyway. Similarly, women who go about in groups, avoid dangerous places of town, avoids dark alleys, being alone in a parking garage at night, etc., statistically aren't in the occupational hazard zone of a slut, who's doing everything she can to gain male attraction.

Athena, the goddess of strategic warfare and wisdom, also understands the power of self-sufficiency; that you make your power on your own, and if you do not respect it, it will burn you. Medusa did not learn this until she had a god raping her inside Athena's own temple, and Athena wanted to make her remember it. She didn't take away her power. On the contrary; she enhanced it.

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The mythology aside, this stuff about women dressing like sluts having to expect being attacked sounds like a male-centered blame-the-victim mentality. Men should control themselves instead of acting like vicious animals. I don't care what a woman wears, it's not an excuse for rape. That's rape-culture thinking. the one thing I do agree with is that women should be more careful where they go alone, and when. There's no point in being dumb, I think.

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The mythology aside, this stuff about women dressing like sluts having to expect being attacked sounds like a male-centered blame-the-victim mentality. Men should control themselves instead of acting like vicious animals. I don't care what a woman wears, it's not an excuse for rape. That's rape-culture thinking. the one thing I do agree with is that women should be more careful where they go alone, and when. There's no point in being dumb, I think.


Which is what I said. I didn't excuse the rapist here, but I'm not entirely excusing a woman who didn't take measures not to draw that kind of attention. Again, if you behave in a promiscuous manner, don't be too surprised to run into that one man who will not take no for an answer.

It's common sense. It's really downright amazing I have to say something so basic, so obvious, but this is the world we live in today, a world where people do what they can to avoid accountability for what they do when things go bad.

Accountability is not a Zero-Sum Game.

It is fashionable, in this day and age, in the event of an unexpected pregnancy that both the man and the woman are 50% Responsible, at the very least. Feminists would sit there and tell you that men are 100% responsible, but they're only half right. In fact, a common thing to say is that a man got a woman pregnant. This statement is entirely wrong. No man can ever get a woman pregnant. It's not as though she stumbled onto an erection by accident.

That's one of the reasons why rape is a heinous crime. It robs her of a conscious, adult choice in the matter.

Going back to Accountability, in this scenario, both the man and the woman are 100% Responsible. Each.

Or, put it another way. Suppose a convenience store is robbed. At gunpoint. The robber comes in, points a gun at the clerk, orders him to open the register and give him the money, or he threatens to shoot him. The clerk gives him the money, and the robber runs away. What has happened is robbery. Who's responsible? They both are. The robber didn't have to rob the store. The clerk didn't have to give the guy the money.

However, just because both actors in this scenario are responsible doesn't mean both are going to be punished. Justice really isn't fair in this regard. In fact, if you think about it, real Justice isn't fair. It's about giving to each what they are due. If you had a role to play in an incident, you have responsibility.

If you happen to see someone drowning in a river, you now have responsibility. You can do something about it, or not, and maybe you'll suffer consequences either way. Jump in, rescue the guy, and you might get hurt or die yourself. Or, call for help. Or, do nothing.

Going back to women drawing the attentions of sexual predators, understand that I'm not excusing anyone here. What I'm saying is that sooner or later, if you do nothing to bear some responsibility for yourself and your safety, reduce your chances of getting raped, or anything which might keep you from harm, it may one day happen. Or it may never happen. It's a big world. But, it's like handling a dangerous chemical. The less precautions you take, the more likely you'll get hurt when that chemical gets loose.

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I can agree with you there to a degree. I think women (particularly college age) need to be a LOT more careful who they let themselves be alone with and where they go and when. but as you said, it's still not an excuse.

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I can agree with you there to a degree. I think women (particularly college age) need to be a LOT more careful who they let themselves be alone with and where they go and when. but as you said, it's still not an excuse.


You can blame society and the universities for that too. It used to be that the idea of co-ed universities was laughable precisely because of what we have today. College, now, has become a bit of a joke; when a lot of people go there to get some rather odd degrees that have no real merit toward a productive career, something smells rotten, and that smell is corruption. When the college isn't too concerned about female students turning up pregnant because they went to the men's dorm or frat and passed out drunk at a party, or just mingling, something smells rotten.

But, this is what we live in today. We live in a society where if you can avoid accountability you'll be rewarded for it. It's even encouraged in our pop culture.

I hate to say this, but women are now completely not expected to bear responsibility. Note, I said not expected. It's nice if they do, but society will try very hard to give them a pass if they do not. For almost anything. Sure, if women go out and kill someone, they'll be prosecuted, but notice that females do not receive the same sentences or length of sentences as men do. This is because society has been trained to look at women differently than men. A woman can commit paternity fraud, and the state will encourage it. A woman can divorce her husband for any reason, and the state encourages it. What's that? Her vows? What do they matter? Legally, they don't. And neither does a pre-nuptial agreement; if a judge takes pity on a woman in the case, kiss that pre-nup good bye. Women can opt out of parenthood through abortions; sure it's limited, but it's not a "right" that a man has.

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If you're going to watch a remake of a movie that completely ignored mythology, why would you expect it to be faithful to the myths???

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I really wished they would just stick to the true story of Persus, I would have loved it so much more.

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Totally well said, I really wished this film just stay true to the mythology, I hated the character Io, though I know she was part of the Persus mytho but this film ruined her permanently along with all the other characters. Even Zeus was ruined, they tried taking Persus's mytho and mix it with a bit of Superman's story.

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The traditional account of the Perseus tale is exciting and marvelous enough to be told without outrageously distorting the narrative for the gods know what motives. Why not show Acrisius, king of Argos, terrified of the prophecy that his grandson would kill him, locking his beautiful daughter Danae in a tower, like Rapunzel, where the god Zeus visits her, entering the prison as a shower of gold? What is this business of the Kraken, so obviously a Nordic monster with that name? The Greek monster also has a name, Cetus, why not use that? And this business of the mortals casting off the gods is totally absurd. It seems to have been inspired by the TV Hercules series, where the gods are shown to be petty and cruel. Kevin Sorbo-Hercules, also a son of Zeus, prefers to live among the mortals and help them as the gods continuously send monsters and other pests to plague the world. Sorbo's Hercules prefers to be just a plain, simple, down-to-earth fellow, working with his hands, rejecting riches and power, just like Worthington's brutish Perseus. And why that boot camp buzz cut? It makes him look like a thug. The film does no justice to the role of the gods in mythology. We see only Zeus and a very undignified, despicable, Valdemort-Hades, with only a few words from Apollo and Athena. We did not even see the gods individually, why even bother with the costumes and make-up? And Athena and Hermes should have been allowed to play their proper parts in assisting Perseus. The black Pegasus is a travesty. Cassiopeia is not given her proper due, nor is Andromeda. Even the costumes are ill-conceived, such as throwing in what appear to be Cretan dresses in the midst of a court where long Grecian style gowns prevail. I do not want to get started on the group of warriors who accompany Perseus a la Argonaut style, the djinn, as if the actors had wandered onto a set of Aladdin or some other Arabian Nights film, the scorpions, the harpies, Pete Postelthwaite as the kindly fisherman, the Colibos (Caliban?) monster. This film is a total insult to the audience. The ones who know the story are disgusted, the ones who do not are deceived and probably decide that Greek mythology stinks after seeing this unpalatable horror.

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Where's Joseph Campbell when you need him? Dead. But, I seriously doubt if he would have been this petty about re-adapting the ancient Greek myths and taking a few liberties with them. Read "The Hero With a Thousand Faces" and stop this useless whining.

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