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Why does this movie feel like it doesn't belong?


This movie feels to me like it doesn't belong in the MCU for some reason and I don't know why. It's not just the actor change because it felt like this before the Avengers came out. Any thoughts?

Are you not entertained?!

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I think because it's hulk part 2.

The whole thing is a mess, they should have done 20 mins of origin and then had Banner leave and "5 years later" it.

THEN Norton acts like an ass and ruins anything salvagable. so re-re-reboot in avengers.

It's like Batman vs superman was supposed to be 10 years ago but everyone Fraked that up.

OH SPOILER ALERT!

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I think it's the almost total absence of humour. The best bit in the film was Liv Tyler kicking the taxi door then telling Norton "You zip it, we're walking". Everything else felt too serious.

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Funny thing is, someone keeps removing all the 'Follows/Followed By' sections of the Movie Connections for this film and the 2017 Spider-Man, for some reason. So I guess the OP isn't the only one.

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Because it was one of the first two. It was Hulk and Iron Man. One severely underperformed, flopped if you consider the property, and the other one performed marvelously(lol). So the rest of the franchise was based off of Iron Man.

Weird thing is, Incredible Hulk wasn't particularly bad. What "killed" it was the final fight which was very "meh". And that "meh" colored the whole perception of the film.

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Because it was one of the first two. It was Hulk and Iron Man. One severely underperformed, flopped if you consider the property, and the other one performed marvelously(lol). So the rest of the franchise was based off of Iron Man.
Weird thing is, Incredible Hulk wasn't particularly bad. What "killed" it was the final fight which was very "meh". And that "meh" colored the whole perception of the film.


Yeah I agree with this, this film was very "meh", compared to the other marverl films it is a let down but probably than the 2003 Hulk film.
I think it feels distant from the other Marvel films because none of the characters besides Hulk who was planed by another actor came back.

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Except for the part where Iron Man and it's sequels were also extremely "Meh".

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While I know it's canon with the MCU, as for answering the OP's question, I can only think of three things:

1. It does feel as if this was originally HULK 2, but they tacked on a new origin and rewrote it a bit to make it a reboot.

2. After all the films in the MCU, this has had no real sequel. Will we ever see the Leader, or for that matter the return of Abomination? Hopefully. Betty Ross? I'd like that. Apparently William Hurt will be reprising the role of General Ross in CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR, so that's a start.

3. Edward Norton didn't come back as Banner.


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1. It does feel as if this was originally HULK 2, but they tacked on a new origin and rewrote it a bit to make it a reboot.


That's actually what happened. It was originally written as a sequel to Ang Lee's Hulk, but rewritten to fit into the MCU. Since they didn't want to do another origin story but did have to reboot Hulk's origin, they just summarized the rewritten origin in the opening sequence. Elements of the original script do remain, the most obvious one being Banner living in South America which he fled to at the ending of 2003's Hulk.

Also, SHIELD was originally going to feature far more prominently in TIH, but Norton did some work on the script and toned it down. Still, there's mention of SHIELD as well as an obvious reference to Project Rebirth from the first Captain America (Banner even mentions Dr. Erskine at one point).

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This movie is something of a crossroads movie in the MCU Avengers series..... Iron Man 1 and 2 were sort of lighted-heated takes on The Dark Knight series.

The first two Iron Man movies a degree of realism.... just look at Iron Man 3 when fans called for the Mandarin as the villain and people behind the movie came out with comments on "how can we introduce him into our take on Iron Man"?... and coming up with stupid idea's on how to get the Ten Rings of Power into the series.... and in the end turned the character into a joke.

Hulk was the second step towards Avengers, and as this movie steps up into gear it does seem to go toe-to-toe with Iron Man (mainly the first one)... yet seems completely out of sync by the times we get to Avengers Assemble a few years later, even without the actor change, this movie seems blackballed in the series, with just a passing comment here and there.... in fact the SHIELD tv series seems to references it more.... and as a result, does feel out of place.

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TIH's tone in general is rather different from other MCU movies. It is a little darker, more serious. At least that is my interpretation, as Jessica Jones similarly seems vastly different from Agents of SHIELD or Agent Carter, the latter being much more in line with typical MCU movie tones. I don't perceive this to be a fault, however, as it keeps things fresh.

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And that is exactly why I like this movie, and find the other Marvel stuff childish; plus Norton is easily the best actor to appear in Marvel stuff, and that includes Downey.

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I think it fits perfectly with the MCU. They just can't show footage from the movie for obvious reasons. Norton got replaced by Ruffalo and they changed the Hulk's look in Avengers without any explanation. Other than that, the movie has been referenced several times in the other movies, Ross was in Captain America: Civil War, they showed footage of the Hulk attacking the military at the school in Iron Man 2 and Avengers (you could barely see it though). Sure the tone was different but that's because the movie came out a year before Disney bought Marvel (and Iron Man 1 feels a little different from 2 & 3 as well)

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This movie was before the Avengers era but it was suppose to be one of the solo origins leading to the Avengers.

The tone of the movie feels different because Marvel was taken by Disney afterwards and they went a little softer on the gritty tone.

If you watch Iron Man 1 which is the only other Marvel origin film before the Disney merge, the tone of that movie is also more serious and matches this movie.

The only difference was that Iron Man was a huge success while Incredible Hulk flopped. I truly believe the reason Incredible Hulk flopped is because they just simply don't know how to make a big angry green monster appealing as a super hero.

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While I feel that is a factor in why it "flopped"...... I think the real reason is they did not know which incarnation of The Hulk they were basing it on..... Norton seems to have based his idea's for the script more on the tv show (which takes very little from the comic's) while fans want a version that is true to the comic book.

I think they did try to intertwine both version, but really it had to be one or the other.

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