Eureka and Fringe


Recently found this awesome show and have enjoyed it from start to finish. Great writing, equal parts exciting and funny stuff. I recently watched a different sci-fi show end: Fringe. In tone it is very different, and the humor is much harder to come by, but with the fabulous John Noble it is worth the wait. I'm curious about why there aren't more people who are fans of both shows, which are both high caliber. I only recognized one IMBD poster here whose name I recognized from the Fringe board.

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I was a fan of both, just didn't post much on the Fringe board nor here that often.

You can't guage how many people are fans of both shows based off a message board as there are a lot of people who don't talk about shows online or just don't post here.










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I wish you had watched both shows while they were still filming. We lost both because of poor ratings. I cannot tell you how many times I have heard or read comments like these made since the demise of both of them! I Reviewed the first episode of the last season of Fringe on Amazon. Go check it out. It's the first review listed and has had hundreds of hits. The reason I bring this up is because I knew when I watched that show that Fringe had already been canceled and lamented how many people in the future would find both Fringe AND Eureka when it was too late to keep them going. Lesson learned - if you like sci fi, watch the shows WHILE they are still running!! The only thing Hollywood cares about are numbers. Too many excellent shows like these two are canceled before their time is up because of low numbers. Spread the word!!

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Huge blubbering fan of Fringe here (though I rarely post on imdb). Watched it start to finish while it was on. Think it was one of the best sci-fis out there (in large part due to the performances of the core-cast).

But I'm not sure if Eureka was ever shown on TV in NZ - if it was, it wasn't marketed well. I only saw it a couple of years ago when I came across the dvd box set. Nobody I know here has heard of it. I just rewatched the pilot last night for some reason.

I will say that although I really liked Eureka, I found it frustrating (and a little bland) sometimes. I think that particularly during the first season it felt a bit flaky - and there didn't seem to be an enormous amount of 'heart' to it. Although the humour in Fringe is far more subtle - I enjoyed it more than in Eureka (which could, in parts, be slightly cheesy). But I think Eureka is generally more of a family-show anyway, after all, there are multiple younger characters in it - which I think it quite a novelty in shows like these (the family aspect is a good thing I think). Otherwise, these are minor complaints - as I said, I still really liked the show - it's still up there in my books.

I am, however, really really enjoying Haven, although I would advise decent imdbers to be a little wary of the comments board on that page - as there seems to be a bit of long-running drama between some posters. But there are also some terrifically interesting theories and links and discussions mixed in. Sheesh. Imdb is tricky. Somedays I need to be more drunk than other days to post.




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Well, that doesn't really work out. Unless you have a nielsen box, live viewing is not counted(and there are a lot of people who don't have dvrs so can only view live). Someone told me dvr's count(I don't know about this), regardless of if you a neilsen box, but only if you watch within the next 3 days and honestly, how many people are able to do that? As well, they didn't count internet viewing and are just getting around to counting viewing done that way and a lot of people watch that way.

So nothing really could have saved Fringe short of more nielsen box homes watching it.

And Eureka, it was on SciFi. SciFi doesn't care about their fans so even if it was getting good ratings, they'd still have canned it. I think the longest runing show they've ever had was Stargate SG-1. I know it started on a movie channel, but most of it's seasons were on SciFi. Everything since has been less than 5 seasons or just at 5 seasons. SciFi just likes to can shows.











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Well said! They are working on software that will be able to track viewing on DVRs and also Hulu, where the episode will show up the next day. They aren't hurrying to do this, though, because they are more interested in the 18-49 demographic and it will be tricky to track them through DVRs and Hulu. As for the Boards in here, I rarely post because it seems that I always get attacked, no matter what I say. If that happens, not really caring about this IMDb Board, I go in and take out all of my comments. Hey, they're MINE, attack them and I pick up my toys and go home! . Unfortunately, the internet is anonymous and there are scads of trolls in here. Good that this has been a fairly nice group here.

I can't remember one off the top of my head, but there are a couple of websites that already are adding in DVR +3 days viewing. I am sure that soon they will be adding them in on a regular basis. For example, the first week of this new season, while NCIS came in 2nd just by Nielsen figures, by adding in DVR viewing, it dropped two spaces. It definitely gives a more precise measurement of audience viewing. And if they'd been doing it when Fringe and Eureka were on, I wonder if they'd have been canceled. Somebody said Syfy is far from SciFi and you are exactly right. Syfy was bought out by one of the networks and that's when things tanked. Which makes sense since the network pulled Lucky 7 after airing two episodes! I'm afraid to watch new shows these days!

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Yes, unfortunately this site is not mointored worth crap(was loads better when I first joined) and all the jerks who think their rude, nasty comments are "opinions" get to keep spewing them and driving away those of us who don't want to deal with, let alone read, that crap.

As for SciFi(I refuse to spell it the new way), I personally think they started to go downhill after they canned SG-1. Admittedly I do watch some of their paranormal reality shows because they intrigue me and the jerks are just leaving fans hanging with no word if they're cancelling or renewing some of them, but yet Ghost Hunters, which I don't watch, is renewed every year. It also doesn't help that they have such short "seasons" anymore. Maybe if they'd go back to their original SciFi Fridays and have longer seasons they'd have better ratings, but yet again this is where their lack of caring about the fans comes into play. But then again, just look at some of their original movies, like Sharknado and the fact that people actually liked it! If people find that kind of thing entertaining, what hope do shows like Eureka, Warehouse 13, Fringe, or any other SciFi show that requires you to pay attention and use your brain a bit have?













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Thank you for quoting from arguably the best short-lived series ever to be cancelled before its time. Granted that "Firefly" was on Fox rather than SyFy, and we have Rupert Murdoch's inability to understand the interests of real people to thank for its demise, while SyFy was bought up by NBC which is owned by Comcast. That was also about the point in time when they went from the Sci-Fi Network to SyFy. numerous quality shows have been cancelled before their time by idiot studio execs. Brandon Tartikoff once said that his greatest professional regret was cancelling "Buffalo Bill" after only two seasons. Then there is the case of Star Trek being cancelled after three and having to fight to get the third season at all and look what has happened with that show. It turned into a franchise. Too often, the people placed in charge of choosing the programming seem too much like placing the inmates in charge of running the asylum.


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I was a fan of both as well.

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Absolutely the two shows I have most enjoyed, perhaps ever. Fringe is certainly one of the better shows ever produced. Eureka pretty much created its own little nitch. I miss them both.

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I too am a big fan of both shows.

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I started watching Fringe but just couldn't get into it. Mind you, that was on TV with a lot of ads. I find that ads interrupt the flow of things, so I tend to either watch it on dvd or downloads. I might give Fringe another try, but Eureka was simply awesome! I was a bit down and depressed when it ended - I felt like I lost some friends! I really really missed the characters and was sad I won't see them again in other adventures. That was the same for Firefly. I keep hoping for similar shows to pop up.

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Ok so I'm looking for a replacement for fringe and have been for some time but nothing beats the incredible multi character acting of john noble who deserves numerous awards for his acting in that show. It simply is some of the best acting I have seen since, since, god I can't remember seeing anything like it before so as u can imagine finding something else to watch is hard now that breaking bad is over and the walking dead feels like its budget keeps getting cut every season

I hope next series we are not stuck in the same damn place all the way through.

Series one where they were on the move was great but then being on the farm was ok for a while but now we have been stuck in this jail for too *beep* long!

I don't need to be reminded it's a drama but it's a drama about zombies which naturally should bring some action which Fringe done perfectly, it balenced the drama, the sci-Fi and the action and as much as I love TWD the pacing and balence needs work. Do we really need the warden back? That is just an excuse to extend time in the boring jail and to see a battle that's been done already which is another issue, repetitivity and until they leave the jail that's what we will get

So is eureka any good?

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Ok so I'm looking for a replacement for fringe and have been for some time but nothing beats the incredible multi character acting of john noble who deserves numerous awards for his acting in that show. It simply is some of the best acting I have seen since, since, god I can't remember seeing anything like it before so as u can imagine finding something else to watch is hard now that breaking bad is over and the walking dead feels like its budget keeps getting cut every season

I hope next series we are not stuck in the same damn place all the way through.

Series one where they were on the move was great but then being on the farm was ok for a while but now we have been stuck in this jail for too *beep* long!

I don't need to be reminded it's a drama but it's a drama about zombies which naturally should bring some action which Fringe done perfectly, it balenced the drama, the sci-Fi and the action and as much as I love TWD the pacing and balence needs work. Do we really need the warden back? That is just an excuse to extend time in the boring jail and to see a battle that's been done already which is another issue, repetitivity and until they leave the jail that's what we will get

So is eureka any good?

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I like both but Eureka is not high caliber, its camp. I see it as a comedy.

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Well, I'm an SF fan in general - I started to watch SF shows such as The Prisoner and The Invaders in the 70s.
I've watched Fringe twice, though I didn't like s5 so much and thought the finale didn't make much sense in terms of resolving the whole arcs of the show. But John Noble was just great and it was good to see a "senior citizen" starring in such a show primarily aimed at young adults.
I've watched some episodes of seasons 1 and 2 of Eureka when they aired on SciFi France, now I'm starting a marathon thanks to the release of the complete Bluray box-set in Germany.

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Fringe is my favorite show so maybe I'll give Eureka a chance. It doesn't seem to have the critical praise that Fringe had so that's why it never crossed my radar.

the finale didn't make much sense in terms of resolving the whole arcs of the show.


Fringe had a complex mythology but what it did better than Lost and Xfiles is that it didn't leave a bunch of unanswered questions. I think the series finale wrapped up the show better than most.

Also I loved Noble but the star of the show was really a female in Anna Torv which I thought was fantastic.

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Eureka is a lighter show for all audiences.
I don't think that X-Files and Fringe can be safely viewed by children, they both have their share of graphic horror (remember Home ?).
Eureka contains light elements of Twin Peaks and X-Files (the set of a small town in Northwest USA, with the big pine forests).
I think it's closer to Dr Who.

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