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Most of black Hollywood need to move out of the way...

posted 15 years ago by TheQuietStorm
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They're taking up room with their inability to recognize great storytelling, their inability to come together with their own resources to create works of substance they believe in, their inability to NOT play the victim role, their inability to be innovative and their collective inability to lead by example. They're in the way of progress. Nothing but a bunch of losers.

There are some exceptions.

Halle Berry - maybe not the best black actress but she is definitely one of the most famous in the world, mainly because of her ability to humble herself, recognize her limitations and disappear into the background for the sake of a film.

Denzel Washington - He could benefit and contribute more by taking the background more, producing a project here, nurturing a director there, etc. Besides that, he simply gets it.

John Singleton - He knows story and really has a talent for the craft of filmmaking, but he tends to be hack sometimes.

Tyler Perry - No, I don't think he has the talent for the craft of film storytelling. But he does have a basic idea of story and he understands the motion picture business. He's a risk taker, very resourceful.

Taraji Henson - She's a survivor, very resourceful like Tyler Perry. She can, however, benefit more from understanding what great story is all about and demanding better from herself.

Will Smith

Queen Latifah

Viola Davis

Terrence Howard

Don Cheadle

Chiwetel Ejiofor

There are others. But they're too irrelevant to hurt black Hollywood, let alone to be mentioned here, while big enough to recognize if they are walking down the street in the black community. These types usually put in good work in great movies no matter how small the role. With more of the right focus, these types can become relevant players in Hollywood.

As for the rest of them, like the many who had something to do with the making of this unimaginably horrendous film (except for Taraji Henson), they need to do us all a favor and disappear. Simply move out of the way for really talented young people of color looking to do great things with their abilities, abilities most of them so tragically don't possess.

Million Dollar Baby Academy Award® Winner for Best Picture of 2004

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[–] krisluvkev 15 years ago

Did a black person take a job from you or something, because this is the second board i've seen in which you've posted this same thread.

[–] TheQuietStorm 15 years ago

No, a black person didn't take a job from me. The people working in black Hollywood today are embarrassingly misinformed and incompetent. They're in the way of progress.

And no, it isn't up to me whether they move on or not. That doesn't mean I'm not on to something, focusing on fresh new talent not tainted by the misinformation circulating through today's black Hollywood.

Million Dollar Baby Academy Award® Winner for Best Picture of 2004

[–] missgangsmashers 15 years ago

"And no, it isn't up to me whether they move on or not. That doesn't mean I'm not on to something, focusing on fresh new talent not tainted by the misinformation circulating through today's black Hollywood."

Dear TQS,

I am MAD CURIOUS...What is the misinformation circulating through today's BLACK HOLLYWOOD...if you don't mind sharing...

TAC

DOROTHY DANDRIDGE IS BLACK & BEAUTIFUL
Bad Boys Move in Silence!

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[–] missgangsmashers 15 years ago

Hey Dynamic,

How are you?

DOROTHY DANDRIDGE IS BLACK & BEAUTIFUL
Bad Boys Move in Silence!

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[–] jjackfam5 14 years ago

Maybe you are just minformed.

[–] TheQuietStorm 15 years ago

To start, Dynamic, you don't know me so you can screw.

tamandchris

The misinformation I am talking about is a complex creature. I could take you back to my days as an intern, when established black producers would tell me "Never to 'dis' the work of black filmmakers no matter how bad it is." People actually followed this as the rule of thumb in 'black Hollywood', forgetting that constructive criticism is the true rule of thumb for growth, both professionally and personally.

From there, I could take you someplace familiar to most of us, where black Hollywood deceive themselves and their audience that the painfully lacking movies/television they produce has some sort of universal appeal. To me, they're misinformed if they think universal appeal restricts itself to educated characters with good jobs, living in nice homes, antagonized by only personal conflict most people endure, like finding love, a troubled marriage, extra-marital affairs, etc (Not Easily Broken). They don't know anything about getting an audience to connect with the characters, using character recognition to create understanding and empathy, four types of contrast to keep the audience fascinated by the characters, and some mysterious complexity to keep the audience guessing. But you can't tell most of them about this. Most of black Hollywood is rigid and ignorant.

There are some in white Hollywood guilty of the same thing. in fact, most of the movies these days are lacking. And you can't tell an artist how to express themselves. But they should be prepared to deal with the consequences of critical, cultural and commercial failure.

Million Dollar Baby Academy Award® Winner for Best Picture of 2004

[–] Spacetree 15 years ago

This isn't really constructive criticism. It's you spamming this crap like a bitter douche.

Hey, it's back! Check the profile for the message boards I control.

[–] TheQuietStorm 15 years ago

Spacetree gotta be the stupidest person (if that) ever.

You dumba$$! I never passed off my OP or anything I'm saying here as constructive criticism you steaming pile for brains. Can't you READ?! I mentioned 'constructive criticism' in the previous comment regarding ACTUAL 'constructive criticism' said by people regarding black films back in my intern days. The established producers would tell the person giving the criticism not to do so. I believe this was made clear in my previous comment. You just can't read, FOOL!

But you're half right about one thing for someone who has diarrhea oozing from both your ears. My comments are far from constructive criticism. I'm going for the jugular. I'm not denying it and I'm not bitter. How could I be? I'm getting mines working mostly outside of black Hollywood. I'm not limited by ignorance and misinformation. They're undermining their own progress and other up and coming black talent, not mines.

So, please. Get the *bleep* out of my face.

Million Dollar Baby Academy Award® Winner for Best Picture of 2004

[–] Spacetree 15 years ago

Uh Oh! Edited cuss words! Nonsensical insults (I'm well aware of what you wrote, thanks. I merely assumed that you wrote your original post with some sort of serious intent. My mistake)! Poop references!

Looks like I struck a cord! I'm just glad you admit that this mess isn't constructive in any way, shape, or form. What it is, I don't know, but at least we can agree that it's not useful.

Well, good luck with your crusade. I'm sure spamming the IMDB message boards will really get the wheels of change rolling.

No signature. Nope nope.

[–] tmontyb 15 years ago

Looks like I struck a cord! I'm just glad you admit that this mess isn't constructive in any way, shape, or form. What it is, I don't know, but at least we can agree that it's not useful.

Good points!

Why do people hate the things they don't understand? - Bobby Hill, King of the Hill

[–] reelmakebelieve 14 years ago

Quiet Storm, I enjoyed reading this thread, it's refreshing to read someone with a perspective that's cutting edge. As an "ethnic" white man of Italian descent I see what you're saying as the same problem with up and coming Italians. Playing into the perception instead of busting through on their own. Remember our entire country is now under the yoke of corporatism and heavy commercialism like never before. Any time anyone puts up a dollar for a movie, they want a guaranteed return or else. The pressure has never been on as it is today. So Black, White and everyone in between are cornered into making what has worked in the past. Not Easily Broken was so bad, it's not even worth addressing. Most good films today are "accidents" ... low budget features that were made as a "throw away" to another deal where something magical happens, spontaneous ... any film coming out of a studio or one with a studio mentality is like watching an extended infomercial about life where what comes out of the player's mouth is a backdrop to how it looks coming out of their mouth. It's stilted, predictable and by and large worthless.

If you don't like what's written here, go watch some television, you'll feel better in a moment.

[–] Darry227 7 years ago

Fast forward to 2017, do you still feel this way, peasant?