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Kurt's prognosis on music

posted 16 years ago by absauers
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As the tapes are from 92-93, he described the current state of music as 'disgusting'..'this generation isn't like previous generations..now it's just a fashion statement for people to align themselves with so they can *beep*..

I whole heartedly agree with the last bit. And I'm sure it will become painfully more obvious as time goes by.

Yet, I would gladly prefer to live in the early 90s solely because of the music that came out of it. shoegaze/punk/hardcore/emo bands..I wonder why he felt as such. He didn't clarify whether he was talking about mainstream bands (which obviously are true to what he said) or he was talking about ALL music, including underground at the time. Could it just be his pessimism that said this or do you think there's another reason?

[–] I_AM_the_Egg_Man 16 years ago

Having been around during that time, I can offer an opinion on what he was saying. Even though all of the alternative types of music were slightly more popular during that time, Pop Music was still the biggest form of Rock (if you can call it that). When alternative came about, you had tons of crappy bands come out of the woodwork and totally commercialize everything. You can see it now. Every time something new comes around, about a hundred imitators step up and turn it pop.

Fat drunk and stupid, is no way to go through life son.

[–] frankzappayay 16 years ago

Well he was a keen music fan and had a massive knowledge of it. So he saw all :P

Like the other poster said, he was probably mostly talking about the big band and pop bands. There was a lot of music going on then, similar to today. From around that time, you had stuff like:

Ace of Base
Dr. Dre
Public Enemy
LL Cool J
The Spin Doctors
Extreme
Rage against the machine
Motley Crue
Guns n Roses
Kylie Minogue
Garth Brookes
Sinéad O'Connor

etc..

I'm not saying I think he found any of those in particular disgusting, that is just a brief list of what was big back then. But you can probably see that there will have been a lot of poser people who just listen to any crap because it's popular, and it makes them look cool. They don't care about the music, they just kind of ally themselves with whatever their friends/peers think is cool so that they would look cool. It's something that has always happened and probably always will.

I also think that there will have been smaller bands that he knew, who were utter poser idiots. Big hair, bare chests, trying to ride along on the coat tails of grunge, and yet all they wanted to do was make money, pick up chicks, and look cool. None of them cared about music, or were genuinely passionate about anything.. and that is the kind of thing that annoyed Kurt the most.

I agree with you though. I would rather have lived back then, than now, in music terms anyway. As crappy as Kurt thought music was back then, if only he could see it now!

[–] Jcash01-1 16 years ago

i find it strange that you have rage against the machine on your list. doesn't really fit with the others

[–] lagginswag 15 years ago

what he said was true and its so much more relevant now

he'd *beep* a twinkie if he saw what we deem as "pop"

glad im a music snob... as for the masses, just wow

woooo american idol yayayaya!@$@#%@# omgomggmgmgmgrofl

[–] frankzappayay 15 years ago

Yeah its a bunch of *beep* and then RATM in there... weird. But I was mainly listing music from that time, not just specifically music that sucked from that time. I guess if i googled I could maybe find a better list but that was just a bunch of stuff I can remember from back then.

[–] thearchdandy 15 years ago

He didn't hate rap. He liked the NWA album Straight Outta Compton on some level because according to Everett True it was one of the most listened to albums on the van/tour bus, and his journal he wrote of rap "Yes, still good, for now, stale in a few years time" - or words to that effect - and boy did he call it right.

[–] TheHumannBee 14 years ago

Newsflash: if you like Nirvana, you're not a music snob.

Music in the early 90's was EXCELLENT. As I've said in other posts, the 80's/early 90's gave us Pavement, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr., Yo La Tengo, even Phish, and we were riding on the wave of bands like the Fall, the Talking Heads, and all the great punk bands of the 70's/80's. Kurt Cobain was making the pop music ;)