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if Cobain was mad at his dad for abandoning him...


... then why the hell did he off himself, thus abandoning his own daughter forever? Somewhere in the film he talks about how he'd never leave Francis that way, even if he and Courtney couldn't get along anymore. I believe that he truly loved his kid, so how did he rationalize his final act?

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maybe someone else "offed" him?

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I agree. Kurt didn't kill himself.

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exactly. he didnt commit suicide. the majority of the evidence points to murder but the investigators immediately wrote it off as a suicide bc they found what looked like a suicide note.

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Regardless of what these people say about it not being suicide, how many times did Kurt mentioning wanting to commit suicide in the film? He mentioned it many times...

Oh, Indeed!

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His Dad left because he was a selfish jerk. Cobain's decision wasn't in the same league at all. It's not like Kurt decided to just bolt and live somewhere else with a new woman or something. He decided to DIE!! Big *beep* difference. The decision to actually kill yourself, and end your life so you will NEVER come back, is a massive decision.. It doesn't get bigger in fact. He did it purely out of the most completely and utter despair, desperation, hopelessness and feeling of unwellness that very few people in the world ever experience. It was mostly born out of mental illness, and that just isn't something most people understand.

He was a messed up guy. You have to be sensible and have some understanding about that, it's not even remotely similar to just walking away from a marriage.

You also have to understand, that Kurt left his daughter with a loving mother, and many many... millions of dollars to support them, and also at an age where she wouldn't even remember him, and the mother could even remarry and the kid not know any different. I am guessing he even considered the fact that she would be better off with no dad and millions of dollars made by him in death, after he becomes a legendary rock star, than for him to just stick around and be a miserable depressed dad constantly wishing he was dead. I think that is how he rationalised his final act.

There is nothing nice about it. It's sad for the daughter, sad for the wife, sad for his sister and mother and grandparents and friends... and sad for Kurt. It wasn't a snap decision. He knew it was selfish and bad. But he did it because it was all he could do. He had become THAT low. It's incredibly sad.

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Cobain never even attempted suicide in his life (The Rome thing was Courtney trying to overdose him on Rohypnol). The murderer hit him in the head, pumped him full of heroin and shot him close range. He goes by the name "Allen Wrench".

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Pfft.
"I Hate Myself and I Want to Die": In Utero's working title. Yep, no indication of suicidal tendencies there.
And if Courtney tried to off Kurt in Rome, please explain why she called an ambulance and saved his life? All she had to do was wait a bit longer and THEN call the authorities.



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Maybe she thought it would have worked by the time they got there. She didn't want to appear suspicious.

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I think killing yourself when you have people that love you is about the most selfish thing anyone can do.

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Probably for the same reason Tiger Woods despised the fact that his father two-timed his mother, but then grew up to do the same thing to his wife. Also, perhaps Kurt's dad was abandoned when HE was a kid. I don't really know. But it seems like a cyclical thing to me.

I don't mean to sound like some lame armchair psychologist. But it seems to me that sometimes, people have a tendency to do/be exactly what they hate about other people close to them. I think that being abandoned by dad can destroy a person's self-esteem, and not necessarily in very obvious, overt ways. And it can occur so slowly that you're not even aware of it happening. In turn, you can grow up, become a parent, and feel like your kid(s) would be better off without you in their life.

My father left my family when I was 3. And it very deeply affected me, and I sought help. I have three kids of my own, and I have the self-awareness that is necessary to keep my depression in check. It's a key part of my life, because I want to break the cycle of bad fathers in my dad's side of my family history.

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