Whiney little beyotch.


I was in high school for the height of grunge era, and I love Nirvana's music. But I gotta say, after watching this, I hate Kurt Cobain even more that I did already. The self-loathing, I'm such a tortured soul act just doesn't play with me. His views and attitudes toward "average people" just crack me up. Also, I hate the fact that he takes such great offense to people wanting to know everything about him because of his celebrity. Guess what, you whiney little p*ssy, every celebrity has to deal with that sh*t. It's called the price of fame. He wasn't complaining about being a millionaire, now was he?

He had all of this anger towards basically everything in the world, and chose not to address much of it in his music. He even said so himself, when he said that his writing doesn't really reflect his personal life that much. Writing about what pisses you off, makes you cry, or whatever other emotion you need to get off of your chest can be very therapeutic, ask Eddie Vedder. Maybe that's why he and Pearl Jam continue on, and Kurt is dead as grunge.

I also find it very ironic that he proclaims that rock is dead, when in fact, it's his style of music that is dead because it was a pseudo-fad. The grunge era came, and went, and almost every rock purist will tell that they're damn glad it did.

All that being said, I'm still a very big fan of their music, especially the Unplugged album.

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While I don't feel quite as strongly about it as you do, I have to agree he seemed so insulated and wrapped up in himself that he never quite got the idea that everyone feels that way at some point in their lives. He may have felt it more acutely, and for longer periods of time, but he's not any different than anyone else in the things he went through and his struggles with them. Everyone thought they were adopted at some point everyone has an imagination, everyone wonders what things would be like if they were gone, everyone feels the severe highs and lows of emotions when dealing with first time experiences, everyone daydreams, and everyone wants to believe that others are below them in every way*. It's how we deal with these things that determine whether we make it through life or not, and because of his mental illness that went untreated? (I don't remember, I changed the channel halfway through) it seems he was doomed from age 9 or whenever it was he started feeling it.

Really, there was nothing remarkable about his childhood at all from what I saw, even though I'll be the first to admit his music was brilliant and changed the world.


*generally speaking, of course



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The fact that he had an incurable stomach disease made his childhood and life quite different from others, I also believe he was kicked out of home at one point since he had to live with his grandfather and friends.. and at some point under the bridge at by the Wishka River. Altough the last part is debatable.

Point being, saying that he had a normal childhood is quite far from the truth.

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I agree with you to a great extent after listening to this documentary Always Local, although I didn't feel that way as a kid when I was obsessed w/ him and his music and the band and my own teenage angst and suffering and pain. ~You get it? I'm 28 now and he was just 27 when he died, that's hard to believe - because he seemed so much older when I was a kid and loving him. But I can agree w/ you to an extent now b/c I'm 28 and stuck out that teenage pain and everything and am able to do things w/ my life now and get through hardships. He was just 27 and kind of just gave up in my opinion. Not that I'll ever speak ill of him b/c like I said, I was a huge fan (and from the pacific northwest too - which is in fact a sh*thole, and the people are small-minded and I can see how he hated them and his surroundings) but I moved out of there, went through many struggles too and life-long depression and I am just now starting to have a contented life, if he could just have stuck it out some more, gotten over his past and tried to work on the future - and gotten rid of his lousy wife and their d*mn drug problems, he could have been a successful adult and father I think.

but, he was just 27, so I can see why he was so hung up on himself and his pain and how the past was still haunting him.


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"Also, I hate the fact that he takes such great offense to people wanting to know everything about him because of his celebrity. Guess what, you whiney little p*ssy, every celebrity has to deal with that sh*t. It's called the price of fame."

Just because every celebrity has to deal with it means he's not allowed to find it an intrusive inconvenience? How about I bombard your computer, your house, your life with spam? Come on, my uncle can't get enough spam junk. He deals with it, you must do too. Nothing like everyone being completely uniform, is there?

"He wasn't complaining about being a millionaire, now was he?"

He spoke about his wealth and said it only brought him happiness briefly, that it was materialistic and he was just as happy before his wealth (happy, not a 'whiney little beyotch (p.s. learn to spell, you won't sound like quite as much of a tool as you already do.)

Still, glad you did your research. Or, not.

"Writing about what pisses you off, makes you cry, or whatever other emotion you need to get off of your chest can be very therapeutic, ask Eddie Vedder. Maybe that's why he and Pearl Jam continue on, and Kurt is dead as grunge."

So grunge is dead but epitome of grunge, Pearl Jam, live on? Contradiction much?

"I also find it very ironic that he proclaims that rock is dead, when in fact, it's his style of music that is dead because it was a pseudo-fad. The grunge era came, and went, and almost every rock purist will tell that they're damn glad it did."

Yeah, he was speaking in 1992-1993. Just for your edification, he was not omnipresent enough to conduct this interview post-death, as most of us aren't. And to talk about rock *beep* hell, do your life a favour and get the pretension stick out of your arse.

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"I hate Kurt Cobain even more that I did already. The self-loathing, I'm such a tortured soul act just doesn't play with me."

Like most artists, he wanted mass acceptance (see popular), but when it happened he ended up hating it. That is called "being conflicted" and part of the human condition. Be careful what you wish for etc.

"He had all of this anger towards basically everything in the world, and chose not to address much of it in his music."

That was not Kurt Cobain's writing style, he was an abstract or third person writer. Another great rock song writer who (other than maybe his first album) NEVER wrote 1st person songs about his life or emotions was David Bowie.

I do agree that too much "woe is me" can get a bit tiring, but that is part of who Kurt was, he WAS a deeply troubled soul, it was the engine driving the talent. The best creativity seems to come from less than stable human beings, and I would rather take brutal honesty (even if I disagree) than the bland everything is OK, or life is a party crap that passes for artistry today.

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Why would anyone think they're coming up with new insights into Kurt Cobain? He's been dead for 17 years - he hasn't changed, YOU have. Kurt's frozen at 27, forever. He definitely had acceptance issues; he wanted a lot of people to like his music but at the same time he had that narrow definition of integrity stuck in his head, whereby if you sell a few hundred thousand records you must have sold out. He was absolutely TORTURED by that (along with a hundred other things). It was a different time and, frankly, I don't ever remember a time in my life where such good, quality music was being played on commercial radio. Nirvana had a lot to do with that. It was a last gasp...there isn't a whole lot of truly great rock and roll being played today, and it's been getting thinner and thinner since around '94-'95.

The one thing that will NEVER change is the music, and how great and powerful it is. Pearl Jam? Are you for real? Pearl Jam can go on for another 20 years and they won't matter, ever. It's been well over a decade since they turned out anything resembling a quality album...not that they were ever in Nirvana's league anyway, in terms of quality (not that I hate Pearl Jam. I don't. They just weren't as good as Nirvana or Soundgarden, or even Alice In Chains, for that matter. 'State of Love and Trust' is a great song, though.). And I don't know what you're talking about when you say "grunge" was a fad, and good riddance. First of all, it was pretty much people whose lives depend on following the latest thing (like you maybe, OP?) who felt the need to call it "grunge". It was loud rock and roll played with a lot of distortion, but the actual music, from group to group (at least among the great bands), was very different. As another poster said, you contradict yourself when you gather all that great early '90s music under one heading and try to oversimplify it, say it was a fad and it's dead...and then praise Pearl Jam for soldiering on! Neil Young's been doing it for 40+ years; had Cobain not killed himself I'm fairly sure he'd still be putting out quality music in one form or another. The music's still great, and it isn't dated at all (unlike, say, 80s synth music or hair metal). The music wasn't the "fad" part of it; runway models and rich college kids wearing dirty flannel was the "fad" part.

I'd just suggest that you don't watch anymore Kurt Cobain documentaries; he hasn't changed his worldview since April 5, 1994. You're not gonna hear anything new.

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Did you wear a bib when you typed that drooling drivel?

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I didn't hear him whine about anything. He was just upfront and honest.

Look at that turtle go bro!

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yes that's why we hate you too, average idiots.

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OP is just another clueless idiot who had no idea how mental illness works.

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