this thread isn't about the plot being realistic or not, but say it was.
i found sean just selfish - "i'm offering myself for the 5 of them." heck, those are wendy's best friends since elementary. discounting billie, she's just supposed to stop being friends with the 4 for a guy she's known for a few weeks? i'm glad the group sex ended, but i'm also glad she didn't end up with the guy.
yuh! just a smidge! i get that he had good intentions, but he was really selfish to make her give up on happy memories. despite their disgusting-ness.
shareI don't think there was anything disgusting about their relationship. Actually, I found it to be really very beautiful, supportive and loving... a warm oasis in a world where sex is either something cheap and nasty, or shameful and guilt-worthy. For them, sex was about love and about sharing something beautiful together - I think their relationship, at least for most of the film, was the ideal relationship... In many ways, there was a whole "Adam & Eve in paradise" feel to their relationship for most of the world.
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Jackie: We're not going to bed until one of three things happens: the hurricane ends, or we run out of rum.
Marty: That's only two.
Jackie: Hmmm...
I think that was the point of the film - to draw you in to the perfectness of their world, and then smash it in front of your eyes so that you understand nothing lasts forever. Everone has to grow up eventually.
I mean I reckon that is literally the message of the movie: learn to let go even if it's painful, because nothing lasts forever. It can only go downhill, and when it does it will only tarnish the memories of when it was really good.
I thought it was really deep myself and a real mind *beep*. Totally enjoyed it beginning to end and really left me thinking for quite a while.
Go to the loo, 'cause all the *beep*'s coming out your mouth instead of your a-hole...
Hazzer,
That is a really interesting observation you make. I suppose the lesson that nothing lasts forever, and holding on when it's supposed to be over "will only tarnish the memories of ehrn it was really good" is a lesson I am yet to fully accept!
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Jackie: We're not going to bed until one of three things happens: the hurricane ends, or we run out of rum.
Marty: That's only two.
Jackie: Hmmm...
Sorry but for me the group just seemed like cowards afraid to face the real world so they hid in their little group which made them feel safe. As for the sex it didn't have anything to do with love. Sex for them had no real passion it was just something that they did. Real love would mean not sleeping with everyone else in the group.
shareI don't think there was anything wrong with their idea, except that they themselves were hypocrites because they were possessive of one another. They were naive in thinking that their relationship would have fewer problems of those in "the real world." In a way they were dodging the responsibility found in monogamous relationships, but they genuinely DID care about one another, as best friends do. Even if it's not everyone's cup of tea, how is that disgusting?
shareI found Sean incredibly selfish. Even if I wasn't in Wendy's situation, I wouldn't want to be with a guy like that. He had good intentions, but they were her best friends. I don't get why the group sex seems to bother everyone. A) they pair off, they just happen to be really close to each other, which since they are teenagers shows how good of friends they must have been to be comfortable with that. B) the sex is only part of their relationship, they were all friends first, there is more to it than just that. C) if teens really are having sex as much as movies claim, then they would be sleeping with everyone anyway, at parties, after movies, whenever. They are just sectioned off from the others. But to answer the original question, yes Sean is selfish and while he was sweet at some points, he was demanding and didn't take Wendy's feeling into actual account.
shareI have to agree that Sean seemed like a judgmental *beep* Calling this girl he supposedly loved disgusting? It was painful to see that. I am not a swinger, and I've never met anyone that made me think polyamory would work for me, but to call what these people had disgusting and condemn them for it would be wrong. Granted they were kids, and their parents should be beaten for allowing there kids to do this, but take that away, add 5 years to the characters, or 10, and do the same story. 6 people who have been together since childhood and have managed to have a loving relationship without jealousy, regret, fear, or guilt(seemingly) is a beautiful idea. No need to condemn her for it at all.
So its selfish of him to want his girlfriend to only sleep with him, yes, it was wrong of him to want her to cut them off completely but it wasn't selfish of him to want his girlfriend to only be with him and not sleep with her friends.
shareYeah, I think Sean should have been more understanding. If he didn't like her relationship with her friends, he should not have wanted to date her.
He wanted her to change, and that's a huge mistake in any relationship in pressuring someone to change.