Depicts US soldiers as classless crybabies

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It may be that most soldiers perform their duties with dignity, but I have certainly heard and read about soldiers breaking down, especially under the influence of alcohol.

I have to admit I thought the wedding party scene was a little over the top, as was the noisy sex going on in the background at the country cottage. But the first sex scene did not seem gratuitous to me at all: it shows what a user Kelly can be, though a confused and ambivalent one. The only other "sex" scene I can think of is when Stone hustles his one-night-stand, the bartender, out of bed because he's gotten a call. That's really just a nudity scene, and, ya know, people who fall asleep after having sex are often nude. That scene emphasized how off-kilter Stone's social senses are.

I'm sorry, but I think it's simple-minded of you to call Stone and Montgomery crybabies. They witness scenes every day that would make many people cry, but their emotions are on hold by professional mandate, so they don't. But in the privacy of Montgomery's living room, while off duty and coming off a bender, they articulate some of what haunts them. Briefly and separately, tears ensue. Then they get back to their jobs and their "dignity." These are "crybabies"?

I'm sure you have information on all Casualty Notification Officers' personal lives right?

Argument debunked. I hope you come to the realization that not all personnel in the Armed Services have perfect lives that uphold to your standards. Move on.

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cut me in quadrants
leave me in the corner
ooh now it's passing
ooh now i'm dancing
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Both these characters have more weighing them then just their jobs at that moment, Foster's character feels he killed his fellow soldier and hates being called a hero. I am pretty sure the thing that is causing his breakdown is his inability to readjust to life, which is shown with absolutely grace and beauty in the bar scene when the other soldier is telling a story he thinks is beautiful and funny but ends tragically and so no one knows what to do.

The film tries to capture the lives of these two soldiers at one particular time and you want to make it in to some grand statement on the entirety of the military. The film maker, writers (who have both served in war and have a better sense of how some soldiers might react than most any of us probably do), and actors want to tell A story not ALL stories, and you want to hinder that by being a cry baby yourself and wanting to deny the existing of pain and suffering that our men and women must go through, in war and in their return. Also, to deny the power of those scenes with the family members is to deny the utmost truth and sincerity.

This film is important because it can transcend individual wars because it captures an emotion of life and existence. This is what war films should be, the affects of war on those who fight, on those who return, and those who must grieve, not the politics, not the death and destruction for its own sake (which is what so many really are), but the human element. That is what this film accomplished and that is why it is one of the best films of the year.

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Doesn't sound like Debbie even watched the movie to me.

What's REALLY sad is that she thinks anyone dealing with traumatic events who doesn't handle it with absolute perfection is a "crybaby."

Apparently Debbie thinks the military should consist of cold, emotionless robots, programmed for perfection and incapable of feeling pain.

I have to completely disagree with the original poster. I think this movie depicted US soldiers as real people with real problems just like the rest of us. They are not robots. They sacrifice their time and sometimes their lives for the greater good of the country. Being a CNO has to be one of the hardest things anyone could ever do, and the fact that it affects them deeply does not make them "classless" or "crybabies." It makes them human.

Uhm, have you served? And if you have, have you been in a war?
I find it hard to believe you even know a relative in the current military.

First off, the mass majority of us in the military do like sex. Oh wait, that's humanity in general. The first scene is to establish whats going on with the main character. The other scene is there to point out how things are going badly at the moment. The Capt. is now drinking, and they were supposed to all be partying. The scenes last all of 5 minutes of the whole film. Get over it. It's disappointing you found the film bad because of two short scenes.

Secondly, A large majority of service personal have issues when coming back from war. Did you finish watching the movie? The main character's story about Iraq is gut wrenching. My time there was awful. I got hurt, and I lost a few friends too. I can't see I deal with it much better than they did in this movie, and they had to deliver the news to these families. My Older brother Serves still, and so do many of my close friends, and most of them have a few issues still.

Nothing about the film made them look unstable. Troubled? Absolutely, but unstable? not a chance. Heck my unit gave out a battle at my brothers wedding. Big Deal, drunk people yell.

I'm surprised that a woman would be so insensitive...