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why was ben foster attracted to that woman?


Of all the people he delivered the message to, i felt that hers was the least saddest because she didn't break down crying or anything like that. Also, she wasn't really good looking and looked a lot older than he was.

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Well said. His character was obviously a bit sad and lonely himself. He wasn't in need of a hot babe on his arm, but something deeper and he found that with Olivia.

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Congrats on the shallowest post I have read today on IMDB... and considering the level of posting here, it's really saying a lot.

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read my first line, im more interested in the answer to that statement. And yeah i guess my 2nd line was a bit shallow. Im not saying she isn't ugly or anything, its just that her and foster didn't really look or act like they could have been a couple.

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Word. One of my favorite postings on another board was, "Sometimes I can feel myself getting stupider reading these comments." It's like a step above YouTube on here. Sometimes you can find decent threads. That's what keeps me coming back. This one is a pretty standard imdb head slapper.

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He connected with her because she shook their hands and thanked them, saying their job wasn't an easy one. I think that generous attitude is what attracted him . . . . .







. . . . plus she had huge hooters.

Sorry, couldn't resist. :)

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Johnny Depp's character fell for her in The Libertine too and I couldn't understand that and she was the bald thing(?) in Tom Cruise's Minority report. There's no accounting for taste but she's not conventionally attractive in any way. Like Maggie Gyllenhaal in The Dark Knight, it's some kind of joke I think.

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I don't know about in the movies, but in real life Ben Foster is only two years younger than Morton.

And in anyway their attraction wasn't physical, at least at first.

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Also, she wasn't really good looking and looked a lot older than he was.


Because you consider Ben Foster a hot guy?
He should be lucky to have any chick even look at him. No offense at all, but if you're basing your judgment on 'physical' attraction, Foster is one damn ugly actor. (still highly talented though)



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I think one of the key points in Will's attraction to Olivia is that, in Will's previous relationship, he left because he didn't want his girlfriend (and eventual wife, as she apparently wanted to be) to deal with the grief of losing him, the grief that he eventually had to bestow on people. The way Olivia reacted to the news of her husband's death shocked him at first (he just stood there after she went inside, visibly taken aback) and I think he became enamored with the thought of being with someone who wouldn't be falling over with grief after losing someone.

Remember, Will's family life wasn't great. His dad died when he was young and I believe he said his mother was a little nuts and he hadn't seen her in a very long time. With a history of loss and distance in his family, this offered him the chance to be close with someone without being afraid that they would be hurt if he were gone.

In contrast, I believe Tony was upset at the realization that, if he were to die, there would be no one to grieve over him and his life of being cold towards others and chasing women amounted to no real connection with another person. As he said earlier in the film, the Army was the best family he had and he knows first hand how cold the Army is towards the dead.

Tony wanted to have someone to grieve over him and Will didn't (at first, at least).

Olivia explained how she hadn't loved her husband in a long while and that only in his death did she love him again. This alters Will's perspective on her original lack of grief and he doesn't know how to react at first (standing in the kitchen after she leaves, taking it all in). But he still comes back after he sees Tony crying. In the end, he realizes that it's better to have someone to grieve over you when you die than to live a cold distant life such as Tony did.


Sorry that got long-winded, but that's my take on the reasoning behind a lot of the character's actions in the film as well as the meaning of the ending for each character.

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Way too deep for me. Attraction is instantaneous. he couldn't have known and thought all those things in such a short time.

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See, I don't think it was attraction that was instantaneous. At first, I think he was just curious, and then eventually that led to attraction. Also, I don't necessarily believe he THOUGHT those things, they were just things that had shaped him in the past.

If I'm attracted to someone, I may not really know why, but I'm sure if you looked back into my history, there would be a bunch of different factors that would have helped shape that attraction.

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With age comes wisdom.... and a realization that smoking hot may not sustain you in the long run. I'm a woman and understand that Samantha Morton was out of shape and not conventionally beautiful- but her character, honesty and generosity of nature was shining. Super attractive, if you're looking.

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I agree, generosity is a very attractive quality.

Also, he was curious and intrigued by her reaction to the news, it really set her apart from the rest of the relatives. And they both seemed to be 'grieve on the inside' kind of people (with the occasional burst, like how she blasted those guys at the mall for trying to recruit). So little by little he got to know and like her. At that point in his life I don't think he valued 'hotness' over empathy and sensibility.

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Olivia was very feminine. It's a quality that the "super-hot" women usually don't have. It's a tenderness and caring that is so attractive - especially to a wounded man.

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I don't know what the deal is with all you people. This is a movie, and I found nothing, nothing whatsoever, touching, emotional, or entertaining about an ugly guy and ugly lady getting romantically involved, and the concept of the guy being the messenger of her husbands recent death is actually an unattractive one. There, I said it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4MqTCIDKhU

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It sounds like this movie really wasn't for you.

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I thought that both the characters were attractive in their own ways, much as most of the people I encounter in real life turn out to be (few are "classic beauties").

I am shocked people feel there was a lack of hotness though. The scene where they are in the kitchen and about to kiss was very full of chemistry. You could tell that he WANTED her.

He was not an immature horndog just looking for quick fixes as evidenced by the weekend they went away when he was content to just let 'Lara' lay on his lap and caress her shoulders and hair gently. He was a sensitive soul.

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This is how I also perceived it. I found Morton to be kind of pretty with hardly any make-up. There was sexual tension between the two of them, IMO.

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Very well-put, realguildar.

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Damn I thought ben foster was super hot he was the only reason I watched the movie

The man is tappable.




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he was attracted to her because he was in a very vulnerable state of mind, just like her. foster's ex was slipping away, and he was not handling it well (punching walls, drinking, showing up at engagement party).

the fact that she lost someone as well drew him to her even more because she was experiencing something similar. in comforting her with her loss, he was also comforting himself, in a way.

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