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Review by a person who doesn't support America sponsored war

posted 14 years ago by allsourav
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Yes we all know America(it's military basically) is probably the single greatest killing machine ever existed on this planet,from Hiroshima and Nagasaki to Iraq the fact got proved again and again.During the last hundred years America has been manipulating the middle east with only american interest in mind.Now I wonder who is at my door,is it FBI,is it CIA,or American Military to suddenly claim that I am a terrorist,yes I am serious,in this unipoler world saying the two lines I have said earlier is enough to declare myself as a possible threat to American dream(I have no idea how).

However my friend with this in mind every mighty power ever raised in the world proved that they are just not any less merciless when it comes to killing innocent people,destroying other country,from Germany,Russia,sevral African countries,several middle east countries,Islamic terrorist groups bucher innocent people as cruelly as any proud american soldier does.If you consider history as proof I think you will agree.

This movie however made no attempt to see the scenarios with any kind of bias at all,that's how I felt throughout the movie,it tells the story from the american army perspective and believe me tried so hard not to glorify any kind of violence at all,to me that definitely seemed a noble approach.This movie is actually a fantastic example how violence,destruction changes the lives of the people associated with it as well as so many people indirectly severely affected by the war.

Movies are a fantastic form of visual art,I think.They have no obligations to convey a message suitable for a group of people,well sometimes they do and they are considered just progaganda,nothing else(there are exceptions of course,sometimes these propaganda movies are definitely worth a watch but that doesn't mean we have to agree to it's message).

Most importantly movies are not made to settle a score for anybody,being an Indian national we are always scared of any kind of terrorist attack conducted by Pakistan,however that didn't stop me from enjoying a beautiful Pakistani movie called "Khuda ke liye".

I wish someday we all are able to watch movies without taking any side,is that ever possible?

Sourav Bhattacharya

[–] MammaJamma99 14 years ago

Just remember jackass that military is why you have the right to spew your sh!t and aren't speaking japanese or german.

[–] allsourav 14 years ago

I just put my view and you proved my point,you wouldn't hesitate to do some physical harm to me for expressing my view would you.

Yes the world will be definitely way too better without the people supporting violence like you.

Have you been in any kind of mindless violent action no matter which side you are,if you think you can enjoy it,seriously see yourself a doctor.

I wrote something about the movie which was the main topic,have you bothered to look at it,I guess not.

Sourav Bhattacharya

[–] MammaJamma99 14 years ago

No all you did was go on a rant about how evil America was.

[–] allsourav 14 years ago

No I think you misunderstood me totally,I was actually writing about this movie's nature of not glorying any kind of violence.

Please read with a calm state of mind and then comment.

Sourav Bhattacharya

[–] MammaJamma99 14 years ago

I did.

[–] johnny_amok 13 years ago

I speak german, what does that make me?

[–] JayCib 13 years ago

I like the German language. What's wrong with it?

[–] Professicchio 13 years ago

Just remember jackass that military is why you have the right to spew your sh!t

That's not the reason why, period. Sorry but nice try!

....and aren't speaking japanese or german.

1) Japanese is a wonderful language.

2) Just for the sake of courtesy and completion, you might also like to add:
"Just remember jackass that the Saxon and the Roman military is why you are speaking English, which is infact a mixture of German and Latin, the language spoken by the aforementioned armies when they conquered England in the 1st and the 6th century AD".

[–] MsAnthropy 13 years ago

"Just remember jackass that military is why you have the right to spew your sh!t and aren't speaking japanese or german."

Remarks like this make me embarrassed to be American. OP, please know we're not all this reactionary, and some of us actually did read your ENTIRE post in order to understand your point.

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[–] Tommen_Forever 7 years ago

Um no, thousands of soldiers have fought and died for constitutional rights that were never in danger, like the ones who died pointlessly in Vietnam, Korea, and Iraq. Patriotic military worship is what sends these men and women to their deaths while we blind ourselves to the fact that their deaths are often unnecessary and orchestrated by politicians in Washington. Don't be so naive.

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[–] WhenGreyjoysCry 14 years ago

Just what do you think would happen if America suddenly pulled its military out of every foreign country? Do you think we will all hold hands and sing Cumbaya? War has been around as long as man has.

What's a slut like you doing in a classy joint like this??

[–] allsourav 14 years ago

Who knows,do you know,we can't predict the future can we?However this uncertainty can not be a reason for america to poke it's nose where it does not belong,suppose in far future China attacks you(I assume you are american) say for eternal piece,does that look good for you.

What about american people who are standing firmly against any war,what do you think of them?traitors I guess.

"Do you think we will all hold hands and sing Cumbaya"

you will hold hands and sing Cumbaya,I don't know about your singing talent but I don't think you are able to hold hands with people who doesn't support any kind of violence(yes american and non american),Correct me if I am wrong.

"War has been around as long as man has."

So finally someone said it,but men and women have evolved,we have greater danger on our sky,global warming,polution,recession,hunger,our supply such as fuels,coal,are decreasing considerably.I don't think even mighty America can not afford a war now.

What about american people dying in another country,it can be hard for you to feel about the dead or dying people from another country,but what about dead american soldiers,are you glad,are anyone glad.

But you know to be very truthful,to suppress another man or land,to destroy another group of people has been man's basic instinct and we need to fight it,but I guess it's impossible for war-junkie to realize that,let me remind you one little historical facts from vietnam the toll is 58000 or something like that for america and it goes way more than 2 lacks for vietnam,get that fact and see yourself in a mirror(not you).

I sometimes wonder how is that possible that the country long been under british control and seen the impact of violence on first hand experience indulge themselves in mind numbing violence,tyranny and cold blooded murders throughout the world for so long.But again I don't have the answer.

"What's a slut like you doing in a classy joint like this??"

Believe me if you are the example of class I would very much like to get out of it.

Have you seen the messenger,it was the main topic by the way.

Sourav Bhattacharya

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[–] allsourav 14 years ago

"I want to state first that I do support the military, am an American, and do understand why we went to war"

When the most powerful military force is brutally killing people from so many different countries only cause they are asked to do so,that makes them mercenaries nothing else,it doesn't matter whether they are american,arab,pakistani,indian,whoever.

Sourav Bhattacharya

[–] fnj2002 13 years ago

It's more than a bit naive to suppose that the motivation of the American fighting forces is only "doing as they are told." The fact of the matter is that they are all volunteers, which implies strongly that they have a belief in what they are doing.

Calling them mercenaries just displays a deliberate warped interpretation. All armies are customarily paid for their services. A REAL mercenary puts his services for sale to the highest bidder. That is hardly the case with American soldiers, sailors, and airmen. I suggest if you are not worried about getting a fat lip that you confront one or more actual members of the U.S. military and accuse them of being mercenaries. I am pretty confident the reaction of a member of the professional fighting forces of the other countries you named, and pretty much every country, would be the same, even for conscripts.

Stateless promoters of violence are hardly unique for believing in their cause. Their pay may perhaps be less, or even absent, but I am sure they are provided food and shelter for their services.

[–] fnj2002 13 years ago

First, no, maligning the U.S. and its military does not make you a terrorist in any thinking person's mind. It makes you something else; something which would only be impolite and unproductive to name.

There is truth in what you say, that every country will go a long way to protect its national interest. Britain slaughtered German civilians wholesale in bombing raids, as the U.S. did to the Japanese. Both were much more efficient at doing so than the Germans and Japanese ever were. Today, for the civilized nations, such civilian losses are limited to unintentional collateral damage, and the U.S. goes to (arguably) extreme lengths to minimize it. Unlike terrorists.

I am looking forward to The Messenger, and I think we may find a point of agreement if it is as good as it looks in previews. Did you see Taking Chance? Or The Kingdom?

I believe it is very possible to see a lot of movies without "taking sides."

[–] allsourav 13 years ago

"First, no, maligning the U.S. and its military does not make you a terrorist in any thinking person's mind. It makes you something else; something which would only be impolite and unproductive to name. "

When did I say something about america,never did,I guess that's you associating america with it's military,I practically grew up watching america on tv and still like it very much by the way,however I am against violence and I mean it,whether it's done by any sort any religion,any country it doesn't matter to me.

The thing to consider is the differnce between people fighting for greater cause such as democracy or may be something else or may be defending themselves from violent attack and war just cause some people like it that way,get blurred,for example in many cases both parties claim they are just defending themselves,then it's really hard to just blame one of those.However in recent times the world is seeing america indulge themselves in violent and onesided war just cause they felt like it(well they have some reason for example oil in middle east).This I believe can not be justified by most of the people in this planet,anti war feelings are shown in the mind of the american citizens,I wonder how do you explain that?

I can't compete with you with the lirerary meaning of marcenaries,I don't have the time or enthusiasm,to me mercenary means people who are killing people for just trivial causes such as money,unfortunately with all due respect to american young soldiers they have been doing it in recent times,For them the only reason is they are just asked to do so.If your explanation of this is america is protecting it's national interest and you seem so satisfied and peaceful by this explanation I guess that makes you just one thing,something which would only be impolite and unproductive to name.

Sorry for using harsh words,I guess I am tired of seeing america endorsed violence all over the world.

If I ever say it to military people that they are nothing but mercenary,I know what would happen to me and I want to live some more years so...,but I sometimes wonder how are they doing?Is this job means just wam-bam-thank you mam.

I did see The Kindom,the ending is great,this movie seemed great entertainment to me,I am yet to see Taking Chance,thanks for the recommendation.

"I believe it is very possible to see a lot of movies without "taking sides.""

I don't think so,we are just human.

Sourav Bhattacharya

[–] fnj2002 13 years ago

You say "When did I say something about america,never did..."

but earlier, you said "Yes we all know America(it's military basically) is probably the single greatest killing machine ever existed on this planet..."

Bad memory? We can't have a very worthwhile discussion if you deny saying things that are in the record. I realize English may not be your native language - if this is the case, please allow me to compliment you on your use of the language, however. It is only thought inconsistencies and objective errors which I have a problem with.

For the rest, we probably will have to agree to disagree on some things - and agree on other things.

[–] allsourav 13 years ago

I think you got me wrong,everybody know america is just too huge country to generalize,Check out history the over aggressive american politics and policies have caused huge amount of death and destruction throughout the world,I have seen anti american feelings in so many countries which is targeted towards a specific group of war hungry people,I have to admit sometimes people generalize.But I don't have that kind of feelings at all.

Who are american military,people like you and me,the basic structure of military I think is to obey orders no matter what,so the violent performance is done by the military generally,well it's true we can sleep peacefully cause they are there,but is this reason enough to support them no matter what they do,this is a hypocritical stand I am taking and I am very much aware of that.

The ultimate question is war or peace,what do you think?

Sourav Bhattacharya

[–] fnj2002 13 years ago

In actual fact, if you bother to check the record, the vast majority of both battle deaths and civilian losses have been incurred by the forces of Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, the USSR, China, and other wildly aggressive countries during the period from the 1930s, into the 1970s. These forces include both national armed forces acting with very little restraint, as well as such savage internally acting organizations as the Soviet NKVD and the Chinese Red Guards.

I would include in the same total, casualties inflicted by counter forces in combating these evils.

Actually, the American military takes pains to educate and train American forces of all ranks to evaluate all orders for legal correctness, and to refuse to obey legally invalid orders. For example, if an officer orders enlisted men to deliberately or carelessly fire on innocent civilians, or on surrendering enemy forces, those enlisted men as well as any other officers present are all expected and required to challenge the order and to refuse it on grounds of illegality.

For the present day, I would go so far as to claim that the forces of the US, and other civilized countries, stand proudly above both bandits/terrorists and forces of primitive nations, which not only have no such protective regulations and training, but in fact actively glorify the murder of certain groups.

National foreign policy is a separate question, and one whose debate would open a gigantic controversy and change no minds.

[–] herocladingreen 13 years ago

Wow, op is bad at english. I mean, no offense, but its so hard to read i cant tell what s/he is trying to say.

To take an educated guess however, id probably go with "i hate america, it is evil (and so is everyone in it) you cannot disagree with me or ill simply claim youve proven my point"

Now as silly and hateful as that is, s/he tries to remedy it with talking about some pakistani movie... a hypocrite shield not unlike the "black friend defense" but just kinda confuses everyone reading, making less of a point, and more of a side note about what s/he did last weekend (totally out of place)

in between these two points, however, is the real meat of the story, simply put: "america loves murdering innocent people, just like the nazis (guantanmo is basically the warsaw ghetto, and inmates are taken out and baked in ovens on a daily basis) the african radicals (giving candy to iraqi children is a lie, and they might as well be stringing their enemies up by their testicles like the africans do) and of course, america's disgusting hard on for violence reminds me of the muslim men who strap bombs to their children, using them to kill soldiers who instead of stringing people up my their man purse, are giving chocolate to kids whove never even seen it. its all disgusting to me, and not only do i believe all this ive just said, but i think that because i said it ill be raided by the FBI, taken to the office of george w. bush, and brutally tortured and killed."

at the end though is where s/he really gets me "I wish someday we all are able to watch movies without taking any side,is that ever possible?"
You could start by not beginning your post with "lets be honest here, america is the great satan" but that aside, i have to agree, conflict makes movies terrible... imagine if 2001 a space odyssey, or the god father were to lack conflict, then we could finally enjoy those stories, but as is, they are just more trashy movies made for american blood lusters, and the very example of a bad movie. If we had more movies like "The Hottie & The Nottie" the world would be much better off, and cinema could finally take off as an artistic medium.

This has been my review of sourav's review of the messenger. I give it an 8/10 for trolling, a -3/10 if serious.

[–] allsourav 13 years ago

"Wow, op is bad at english. I mean, no offense, but its so hard to read i cant tell what s/he is trying to say. "

I know but you still read it, right!

"To take an educated guess however, id probably go with "i hate america, it is evil (and so is everyone in it) you cannot disagree with me or ill simply claim youve proven my point"

No I never said it or meant it,it's just your educated way of mocking.As a matter of fact I have huge respect of generaL american people,I live by american entertainment industry by the way,seen too many american movies and enjoyed them thoroughly and yes it's my dream to see america if I ever get a chance.

But just like Vietnam American indulged itself in another unnecessary violent war,voices are raised against the war within the country just like vietnam,it's rather funny you never mentioned them.

"in between these two points, however, is the real meat of the story, simply put: "america loves murdering innocent people, just like the nazis (guantanmo is basically the warsaw ghetto, and inmates are taken out and baked in ovens on a daily basis) the african radicals (giving candy to iraqi children is a lie, and they might as well be stringing their enemies up by their testicles like the africans do) and of course, america's disgusting hard on for violence reminds me of the muslim men who strap bombs to their children, using them to kill soldiers who instead of stringing people up my their man purse, are giving chocolate to kids whove never even seen it. its all disgusting to me, and not only do i believe all this ive just said, but i think that because i said it ill be raided by the FBI, taken to the office of george w. bush, and brutally tortured and killed."

Hehehe you made me lough so hard,no america hater could have told the story in this way,talking about troll.By the by what's the deal with children and chocolate man.

Yes as a matter of fact there are unbelievable similarities in how ruthless aggressive powerful countries just go on hunting and believe me america is no different,the general view of the american people is I believe against the war but in no country the general view is reflected on the govt policy(there are exceptions by the way.)

Yes there are reports of innocent individuals being treated differently from having a different opinion on american war pilicy,recently from airport to huge cities an increasing amount of violence is being conducted against asians and yes I am concerned.

To me truth is what I see.here is some part of the truth.

From http://wikileaks.org/

"At 5pm EST Friday 22nd October 2010 WikiLeaks released the largest classified military leak in history. The 391,832 reports ('The Iraq War Logs'), document the war and occupation in Iraq, from 1st January 2004 to 31st December 2009 (except for the months of May 2004 and March 2009) as told by soldiers in the United States Army. Each is a 'SIGACT' or Significant Action in the war. They detail events as seen and heard by the US military troops on the ground in Iraq and are the first real glimpse into the secret history of the war that the United States government has been privy to throughout.

The reports detail 109,032 deaths in Iraq, comprised of 66,081 'civilians'; 23,984 'enemy' (those labeled as insurgents); 15,196 'host nation' (Iraqi government forces) and 3,771 'friendly' (coalition forces). The majority of the deaths (66,000, over 60%) of these are civilian deaths.That is 31 civilians dying every day during the six year period. For comparison, the 'Afghan War Diaries', previously released by WikiLeaks, covering the same period, detail the deaths of some 20,000 people. Iraq during the same period, was five times as lethal with equivalent population size. "

Don't u ever feel ashamed.

Sourav Bhattacharya

[–] wsukellie 13 years ago

Everyone's entitled to their opinion and I appreciate other viewpoints, but in my opinion it's hard for you to understand the motivation of the U.S. Government and Armed Forces when you don't even live in our country and have never served.

I personally grew up in the military (my dad retired after 21 years) and I feel blessed that I got to live overseas twice and I am proud of my dad for risking his life in both Iraq and most recently in Afghanistan as an employee of the Department of Defense.

I don't condone senseless killings but we are not over there for no reason. There are legitimate terrorist threats against our country all the time and I do not want to have another 9/11 happen.

Also, it's naive to think the world will ever be at peace. On a lighter note, we really wouldn't want peace because a lot of people would be out of jobs (i.e. law enforcement, military, lawyers, weapons manufacturers, CSIs, etc.)

It's not who you are underneath, but what you do that defines you.

[–] allsourav 13 years ago

"Everyone's entitled to their opinion and I appreciate other viewpoints, but in my opinion it's hard for you to understand the motivation of the U.S. Government and Armed Forces when you don't even live in our country and have never served. "

Ok I accept but at the same time it's hard for you to understand the sentiment of the people who woke up one fine morning and realised they have no country of their own anymore or even worse they never ever woke up because they were already dead by american bombing,I guess you can sleep peacefully refering them as "collateral damage",unfortunately for me I can not.

"I personally grew up in the military (my dad retired after 21 years) and I feel blessed that I got to live overseas twice and I am proud of my dad for risking his life in both Iraq and most recently in Afghanistan as an employee of the Department of Defense. "

What do you expect me to say,"killing is fun dude!"

"I don't condone senseless killings but we are not over there for no reason. There are legitimate terrorist threats against our country all the time and I do not want to have another 9/11 happen."

I have heard Mr. bush saying something like not finding anything in iraq which he used as an excuse to attack iraq in the first place,but the funny thing is he forgot to tell sorry to iraqi people and so did you.What about vietnam,forgot already.

If you missed it in case please read and rationalize your pride again,

From http://wikileaks.org/

"At 5pm EST Friday 22nd October 2010 WikiLeaks released the largest classified military leak in history. The 391,832 reports ('The Iraq War Logs'), document the war and occupation in Iraq, from 1st January 2004 to 31st December 2009 (except for the months of May 2004 and March 2009) as told by soldiers in the United States Army. Each is a 'SIGACT' or Significant Action in the war. They detail events as seen and heard by the US military troops on the ground in Iraq and are the first real glimpse into the secret history of the war that the United States government has been privy to throughout.

The reports detail 109,032 deaths in Iraq, comprised of 66,081 'civilians'; 23,984 'enemy' (those labeled as insurgents); 15,196 'host nation' (Iraqi government forces) and 3,771 'friendly' (coalition forces). The majority of the deaths (66,000, over 60%) of these are civilian deaths.That is 31 civilians dying every day during the six year period. For comparison, the 'Afghan War Diaries', previously released by WikiLeaks, covering the same period, detail the deaths of some 20,000 people. Iraq during the same period, was five times as lethal with equivalent population size. "

Sourav Bhattacharya

[–] amiya1985 13 years ago

The thread starter says "Yes we all know America(it's military basically) is probably the single greatest killing machine ever existed on this planet"

I don't agree with him because military never starts war its the politicians who starts war, ARMY is tool used by the politicians to do their dirty job.

For example a person shoot some guy with a gun then its not the gun that killed the guy its the the person who was holding the gun. Similarly for me its not the ARMY who kills people its the politicians who kills people.

Now the thread starter would say WHY ARMY KILLS INNOCENT PEOPLE AND CHILDREN.. and I am 100 % sure that ARMY don't want to kill innocent people but when they went to war they have no means to figure out who r innocent and who r terrorists. I know its wrong but they have no other choice.

It was always American politicians who started war whether it is VIETNAM, IRAQ, CUBA and many more. According to me American politicians r the greatest killing machine on the planet. I wonder whats the difference between Al-quida and USA politicians.

[–] itszombietime 13 years ago

well despite all the foolosophizing on this board, i greatly enjoyed this film. great job directing, strong script, the story arcs were clean, and ben foster again proves he is absolutely one of the elite actors in the business. same goes for harrelson, who always does a great job and was outstanding in this film. sam morton's character could have been better cast, she wasn't that great IMO. and i've never seen her more unattractive, which may have been deliberate.

[–] allsourav 13 years ago

This movie is the greatest anti-war movie to me,sorry for my part in "foolosophizing".

Sourav Bhattacharya

[–] ESW320-1 13 years ago

Pakistan is full of evil people who strap bombs to themselves and children, then use them to attack people they are jealous of. They believe they get to bang 40 virgins, if they die killing someone. Oh, I'm sure the general populace probably isn't that bad, but Pakistan is known for doing this.

I'm not sure if you're Pakistani or not, but if that's the case, how do you feel being slandered like that. I have never lived in Pakistan, never visited it, I only go by what I see on TV, read online, or hear from other people. See, I didn't say anything bad about Pakistan, I said I like their general population. Oh wait, no I clearly said Pakistan is full of evil people. Kind of like how you said America or our military is full of evil and enjoys slaughtering people. All I can say is at least you're not some ungrateful american who doesn't realize the freedoms we get in this country. Freedom of speech is the reason wikileaks is available to everyone in America. We don't allow censorship here. You don't see us blocking the view of the website, where China was mighty quick to censor multiple stories from wikileaks.

Here in America, when we grow up, we're taught to do onto others, what you'd like them to do to you. Treat people with respect, don't judge them, but not everyone is perfect. We're all human, jerks come in every race and form. I bet you don't enjoy hearing people slander your country, when they don't have any idea what they're talking about. You know absolutely nothing about the lives of the soldiers on the front lines in Iraq. Not all of them are volunteers, they aren't there just to kill innocent people. Don't you dare call them mercenaries, you have no idea what a mercenary is. There is a huge friggin difference between an American soldier and a mercenary. Two completely different agendas, responsibilities and accountability.

Either way, I'll never be able to change your opinion and I accept that, because like I said earlier, jerks come in every race and form. You talked a bunch of *beep* people called you out and you started to back track and act like you didn't say anything. I'm not going to say we are the best and we're never wrong, but I will say this from all I know I'd much rather stay here than live whatever jealous little *beep* you crawled out from.

[–] allsourav 13 years ago

"Pakistan is full of evil people who strap bombs to themselves and children, then use them to attack people they are jealous of. They believe they get to bang 40 virgins, if they die killing someone. Oh, I'm sure the general populace probably isn't that bad, but Pakistan is known for doing this."

Well I am not pakistani and please stop generalizing just cause you feel like it, but I have heard America has been providing them weapons for so long which are sincerely being misused just like in case of afghanistan for example F16,let's face the truth america has been acting as the most resourceful weapon seller in middle east for a long time,ever heard of history book you idiot.

"Oh, I'm sure the general populace probably isn't that bad"

Wow "probably isn't that bad" is very much over simplification and please stop making judgements on a huge number of people following a small number of people.

"I'm not sure if you're Pakistani or not"

you would be so much relieved if I am a Pakistani wouldn't you,cause then I would match your perfect stereotype,talking about arrogance and ignorance.

"See, I didn't say anything bad about Pakistan, I said I like their general population. Oh wait, no I clearly said Pakistan is full of evil people. Kind of like how you said America or our military is full of evil and enjoys slaughtering people"

hmm I got your point,sorry if I heart your feelings.But sincerely I have nothing againtst you or anyone,I was just trying to explain how this movie maintained an uniform vision of war unlike others.

"All I can say is at least you're not some ungrateful american who doesn't realize the freedoms we get in this country."

Again just showing off your absolute arrogance and disrespect for something you probably don't understand,to take a stand against war and supporting peace seems
ungreatfulness to you.May god bless you.

"Freedom of speech is the reason wikileaks is available to everyone in America. We don't allow censorship here. You don't see us blocking the view of the website, where China was mighty quick to censor multiple stories from wikileaks. "

Did you know how wikileaks got shutdown forcibly in america and believe me dear this just doesn't look good on america's resume.What's the point of talking about China anyway,nobody expects mercy from them,they are just mighty pack of hyenas waiting for usa to fail.

"Here in America, when we grow up, we're taught to do onto others, what you'd like them to do to you. Treat people with respect, don't judge them, but not everyone is perfect. We're all human, jerks come in every race and form."

When did I say anything disrespecful to average Us citizens,just writing some of my thoughts in IMDB,not killing anyone or destroying countries like USA,talking about jerk.

"Don't you dare call them mercenaries, you have no idea what a mercenary is."

Heard about the video published where american soldiers were loughing while killing innocent people in iraq,I think supporting them blindly just make you disgraceful nothing else.

"they aren't there just to kill innocent people"

Then how do you explain the severe amount of murdering innocent people,raping women.

"Either way, I'll never be able to change your opinion and I accept that, because like I said earlier, jerks come in every race and form."

Why don't you change your own opinion about american aggression instead ?

"You talked a bunch of *beep* people called you out and you started to back track"

when,when when,oh that time when someone said I meant something which I didn't in the first place.

Sourav Bhattacharya

[–] Tommen_Forever 7 years ago

Wow, op is bad at english.

Your grammar isn't so hot either.

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[–] ESW320-1 13 years ago

I apologize, I fully read your original post again, and your Indian. Your caste system is *beep* up. We have civil rights in America. So, forget what I said about Pakistan and just use that instead for my slandering.

[–] allsourav 13 years ago

oh dear god what an absolute idiot you are,what make you think I support cast system,I hate them sincerely.
Sourav Bhattacharya

[–] jacarico 13 years ago

allsourav,

I think that you're opening paragaph (and topic heading) ruffled too many feathers and people did not read the rest of your post. That's why you are receiving a lot of negative posts. I think that you wanted people to notice your third and fourth paragraphs.

And you are right...this movie did not glorify the violence of war. But since this movie is about soldiers giving death notices...I don't know how it could glorify the violence of war.

Take Care