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What I feel was missing from the movie.


Okay, I finally saw this last night. I had heard it was disturbing and unsettling, and after last night's viewing I most certainly agree.

I do feel there was a very key element missing from this film. It's pretty simple. Aside from one very, very brief psychiatrist comment that Burt was not a psychopath, there was absolutely NO psychologial professional commentary on what really was going on with BOTH of these people. Friend after friend after friend, and the two of them, simply narrated already clearly documented events. But they sure did rush over the reconciliation. It just kind of happened out of nowhere. I did my best to pick up on the subtleties of what was going on in Linda's mind...she seemed to warm to him only after he started sending her money and at the end she specified that she has "no more dreams." Perhaps she simply gave up and gave in to his obsession...he wanted to turn her into a damaged object of possession and that's exactly what he did. Many have mentioned Stockholm Syndrome...we really needed to see much, much more about the workings of these kind of psyches to make this a more valuable educational experience. What we had here was simply a narrated scrapbook. What was REALLY going on in her mind? It was made clear that she shut out all men in the years after the attack. Seems like she's still shutting a lot of the world out. Perhaps even Burt, and is simply using him as life support and nothing me. And is also occurred to me that perhaps there is even more physical and verbal abuse regularly going on between the two that neither will admit to.

So, this movie missed the mark at the potential to be FAR more informative and enlightening.

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When Jimmy Breslin commented (and presumably the essential idea of the film) that in all his 50 years he'd never seen such an obviously insane person, I thought Um yeah but what about HER?

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Um yeah but what about HER?
she was normal what do you mean?

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I totally agree, I watched this last night and thought there would be more analysis of the two of them. Though maybe since they cooperated with the film, they wanted to be portrayed in a more positive light?

You could see the warning signs where Burt was way too possesive in the beginning- taking her to breakfast and lunch and dinner, not giving Linda any space to breathe. But I guess she was so flattered and/or screwed up herself that she didn't pick up on the bad vibes. I'm so glad that we have anti-stalking laws and restraining orders now, that was some scary stuff.

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Because of their symbiotic relationship, they are both surviving, he out of prison, she economically. He is atoning. She is constantly punishing him, and receiving restitution. I think there is more than a psychological dimension explaining their marriage, there is also a material and moral dimension.

The movie was not only about this pair and romance gone awry, it was about the stages of life, of which romance is but a glimmer, and of relationships in the context of culture and mores (eg, sex in the 50s, sex commodified). I thought the filmmakers' context and juxtapositions were excellent here.

Informed psychiatric commentary would have been interesting, but, there may have been ethical prohibitions (confidentiality issues), and perhaps the filmmakers didn't want conflicting speculations. And the Pugachs certainly consented to the documentary only under certain conditions; perhaps those dictated no psychiatric commentary, or somesuch.

He seems to have been obsessive-compulsive, perhaps psychotically so.

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I don't think Linda is crazy. I think she is pragmatic and was very very lonely. He ruined her. He took away any chance she had of a normal life. She couldn't kill him, couldn't destroy him, and when he came call yet again into her empty life she finally said, "eh, what the hell. It's better than nothin'." He is also the only man who could look her in the eyes and continue to love her. How many times did guys ditch her when she took the glasses off? Though he is a completely psycho sh*t, when they are together he treats her better than other men did. She got the best that she could out of life and has chosen to be happy with it, like so many of our parents and grandparents did.



I like him, he says okie dokie. - Dean Winchester, Supernatural

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After seeing them together in the end I really must say in it's bizarre, sick way, it's the ideal relationship for both of them. He got what he wanted and she got what she needed. What a fascinating story.


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I'm not sure a lot of psychological analysis would have made this a better or more interesting film. I think part of the point of the film is that human behavior really is strange sometimes. It can be explained with one psychological theory or another, but you can never really know precisely how accurate those theories are. Sometimes a big anomaly in human behavior is just like watching an odd weather event, although really that's not such a good metaphor either, because if you had enough data you could explain exactly how that weather event happened. Not so much with human beings. Psychological descriptions and labels tend to run reductionistic very quickly, especially when you're talking about two entire lifespans like this. (And no, I'm not anti-field-of-psychology; in fact, I was in a graduate ed psych program and have done about as much independent reading on certain subfields of psychology as a lot of Ph.D.s might have.)

That's not to say there weren't things I thought could have been done with the interviews, and particularly with the order of presentation, that would have made it a better film. I just think psychological explanations also would have run flat.

I also think these are people who come from a time when people weren't quite as navel-gazing as they are today. People do weird things; you live in New York, you see it all; *beep* happens to you, you go on and make the best of it. I especially got the feeling from Linda that she was firmly rooted in that way of thinking, which I'm not so sure is all bad.

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Yes, the doctor/client interviewed said that he wasn't a psychopath but the file said psychosis. Different terms.

But may have had a psychotic break at one time, but he definitely has some sort of personality disorder, like narcissism and/or borderline personality disorder.

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