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Why didn't Guy realise...

posted 13 years ago by sabrinajaine
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...that Marian was still liaising/communicating with Robin? There are loads of little events and clues but there's some big ones that come to mind:

- In series 2 episode 11 (I think?) Guy discovers that Marian is the nightwatchman, and recalls that a year ago he stabbed the nightwatchman. But he doesn't remember that Robin saved her that time, or that Marian tried to save Robin in series 2 episode 1. I suppose when Guy finds out he's too upset to really think about it in detail, but still. It's kind of a plothole.

- The events surrounding Marian briefly being an outlaw in Sherwood Forest with Robin. It doesn't make much sense how she can come straight back to the castle at the end of episode 9, series 2 with no questions asked. The whole thing about Marian's dagger being used to kill the jailer was forgotten about and no one seems to have seen Marian leaving Nottingham Castle with Robin at the end of episode 7 (Just like how no one saw them kiss in series 1, episode 13), she also fought some guards in Loxley in episode 8, and no one seems to wonder why Marian's wearing trousers either, even though she's supposed to have been at Kirklees abbey. (It's also really anachronistic, but that doesn't matter so much cos we already know RH isn't famed for its historical accuracy!)

What are everyone's thoughts on this? The show seems to have had a bit of a problem with continuity. I suppose the writers just wanted to keep Guy blissfully unaware until the series finale.

[–] heartfelt4-1 13 years ago

I suppose the writers just wanted to keep Guy blissfully unaware until the series finale.

I think you've answered your original question, sabrinajaine. I recall wondering the same things as I went through the series, but eventually realized that historical accuracy and continuity and realism in the plot were not extremely important to the writers. After I suspended expectations of a tight story, I enjoyed it more, appreciating it as a quirky, entertaining series with wonderful glimpses of Guy.

[–] jennyrose-73863 9 years ago

I know this is an old thread, but never mind, I'd like to answer anyway. In my opinion, Guy may have suspected something, but didn't want to believe it, so he denied anything suspicious Marian did. He had this very idealised image of her, so naturally anything that could tarnish that image (such as Marian working with Robin) would be completely out of the question.

[–] Lady Cole 9 years ago

I think it made Guy look like a complete moron and Marian look like a teasing little hussy....

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[–] jennyrose-73863 9 years ago

Hmm... I always looked at it as different sides of them emerging that we didn't otherwise get to see: Marian's faults (among others), and Guy's more vulnerable, helpless side that wanted to be good.

[–] Lady Cole 9 years ago

Yeah but Marian basically dug her own grave when she stood between Guy and the King and said she was going to marry his arch-enemy. That is NOT a wise thing to do when you've got a big guy who is probably running on pure adrenaline, who is also holding a big sword and counts loyalty above all else? She said she'd rather be dead than marry Guy? Wish granted you little twerp. I felt no sympathy when Marian died. Yes, Guy did horrific things, but many times had he helped her, covered for some of her deeds and adventures, faked her execution, tried desperately to help her get out of the castle when Winchester (was that his name) asked that taking Marian be part of his bargain to sign the Pact...she gave that speech to him about people being forced to lie and cheat, so what exactly do you call what she did to him?

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[–] Shimmer_Me_Timbers 9 years ago

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[–] jennyrose-73863 9 years ago

Guy was going to kill the king, and didn't seem to be in the mood to listen to reason. What else was Marian supposed to do? It wasn't smart, but Marian acted spontaneously, without thinking. All she was focused on was saving the king. And the number of times he covered up for her doesn't change the horrific things he did, such as burning down her house, or when he practically forced her to marry him.

[–] MirinF 9 years ago

Marian acted spontaneously, without thinking

I think that's how she acted most of her life.

[–] Lady Cole 9 years ago

I think a part of him suspected, but he pushed down his doubts because he wanted desperately to believe that Marian cared enough about him to not betray him. But Richard did say in an interview, which is on the special features section of the Series 2 DVD set, that he still can't believe that Guy never realized that she was the Nightwatchman. I mean she did let out some pretty feminine noises during a few of the times when she and Guy fought directly.

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[–] mlaiuppa 8 years ago

Love is blind.

And Marian didn't kill the guard, her Father did using her hair knife. Guy just overlooked it because, well, he had the hots for her.