I don't like Thomas either


Not because he's black. I have a problem with this kid because after Jasira goes to apologize to him at school or whatever and she tries to get back together. He's like no..but then he's like have sex with me..and she stupidly says yes....then that's when he wants to get back with her...i understand later in the movie he's like we shouldn't have sex together anymore until you're ready..or something like that...but i just felt that he also took advantage of her too, and therefore i don't like him.

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Of course he also took advantage of her in a predatory way. HE was, however, a typical adolescent boy. Not so much a predator as someone with physical urges taht are outpacing his intellectual ability to understand them. Not unlike Jazira, frankly, but from another point of view

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idk..he still struck me as weird..and i understand that puberty has gotten to him and he's a typical adolescent boy, but he was just too much obsessed with sex and he needed to control himself

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He was what 14, I'm pretty sure he's seen enough porno's by that age, Most boys at that age are obsessed with Sex. Hell when I was in 7th grade I walked into the chemistry lab and saw this girl giving a guy head.

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Hell when I was in 7th grade I walked into the chemistry lab and saw this girl giving a guy head.


Jeeze, what kinda school did YOU go to??



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"but he was just too much obsessed with sex and he needed to control himself"

O.O thats about the majority of the young males in this country. What you shouldnt like is that fact how how much sex has been presented to the young children and adolescence. Something the film had addressed.



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OK Thomas took advantage of the situation by asking for sex as a condition of forgiveness but it's not like Jasira didn't want to. There was obviously a mutual attraction and Jasira was willing to risk her father's wrath and a bad reputation by continuing to see him. Why do you think Jasira took a condom out of Mr. Vuoso's army bag? I'd agree about not liking Thomas if perhaps, Jasira said no to having sex and he blew her off completely. As far as Thomas saying they shouldn't have sex after Jasira revealed her secret near the end, that showed some maturity on his part because he saw her as more than just an easy lay.

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In my opinion, it reinforced what her father said/felt about blacks and in a way proved him right.

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I agree that Thomas took advantage of her and I didn't like his character much at all. It did remind me a lot of Travis Vuoso when he told Jasira she would have to pay a toll to get past him. I think this was an intentional link; an adolescent almost mirroring the actions of adults. Thomas, Jasira, Denise, and Zack are a product of their society. Sex is a taboo subject especially when you're talking about adolescent sexuality. A topic that most people are too uncomfortable to broach. The adults in this movie, with the exception of Melina, didn't really promote any healthy sexual dialogue with the curious adolcecent characters. There isn't really a healthy dialogue flowing between the adults as well. Half the time Rifat responds violently to Jasira's curious nature in an effort to keep her reputation in tact, yet he decides to have sex with Athena, quite loudly I might add, in the presence of his Jasira. Like most adolescents Jasira, Thomas, Denise, and Zack rely upon observation of the adults around them and the media for the answers to their questions. This leads them to take on hypersexual roles and behaviors that they aren't emotionally equipt to handle. This isn't a new concept at all. The movies American Beauty and Thirteen explore this theme as well and would be good ones to check out if you haven't already.

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I agree, he was meant to be the better guy but he only really wanted her for sex too.

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I disagree that he "just wanted her for sex". He was a typical teenage boy-and what do teenage boys want most of the time?? Sex. Doesn't mean he didn't care about her otherwise. I agree his proposal to her was rather lewd, but it certainly looked better coming from an adolescent than from a married grown man who should've known better.


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I remember being that age and I never treated a girl like way he did.
Its not typical it just a user I mean there is a such thing as a bad
boyfriend and good boyfriends even at that age.

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Thomas never forced Jasira to do anything she didn't want to do. She wanted to have sex with him long before he used it as leverage. She knew what could happen if her father found out she was still hanging out with Thomas after he forbid it, but was willing to take the risk.

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That was wrong how he gets back with her when she mentions sex, but he is just like any other boy at that age, horny and stupid.

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I was horny at that age, but wasn't stupid.

Also, the two are meant for each other since they're no one around their age like them.

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WTF?! how can anyone think he took advantage of jasira whatsoever...he never forced the issue on her, she had even told travis that thomas was much better than him...heck at my junior high we did way more than they did during school...

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I think the point was that he wanted to know if she would be ashamed to have sex with him. I see your point though; it was pretty tasteless.

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