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What is up with Americans remaking British TV?

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American shows get redone in other parts of the world. It works both way.



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To be honest, as far as I know, we (in the UK) don't tend to remake that many American shows. There are exceptions to that rule but for the most part we get American television as it originally aired. I don't know about the rest of the world though.

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We did try to remake Married With Children, and totally failed at that. Remember Married For Life, with Russ Abbott? No? Probably for the best :D

I don't mind remakes as long as they bring some sort of value, and are better in some way - at least for the target market.

I mean LoM had very UK specific references, so remaking it for the US could have worked. But they change more than the references, they change stories, scripts, and characters... and thats where it can go pear shaped.

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I don't disagree entirely. The British version of Law and Order is superb. Living in Canada we have the best of three worlds. American and British humour are quite different. Canadians,who have more recent British history (like myself) are mostly able to get both. British shows tend to be written to appeal to British viewers foremostly. The dialects and slang are crucial parts of the dialogue for obvious reasons.If there was a show with only undiluted dialects, even Brits would need subtitles. ( Spender, Boys from the Blackstuff). We are seeing now with shows like Duck Dynasty and Honey-Booboo that some shows made in America could use subtitles both for Brits and Americans. The lyrical language is part of the chemistry...... I think.

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what I don't get is WHY they "have to" remake them...?!?! They understand English right? I'd imagine that the "remaking in other parts of the world" s because of cultural and language differneces?! I don't know... but I don't see why they have to remake shows that are perfectly good...?!

I LOVE British tv (and no, I'm not british myself!) but it bugs me that the american tv-people do this, in stead of just airing the shows! I know they're about to remake two other hit shows as well; Skins and Being Human... why, why WHY???? I just KNOW that Being Human is gonna turn into a mix between Vampire Diaries and Twilight, and Skins is probably just gonna be baaad!! =/ ...do not like :P

anyway.. I'm off to bed!

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Think about it this way: How do Americans relate to the nostalgic 70's of ANOTHER country? What if we just want to be able to enjoy the memories of our OWN past? Is it so hard to relate?

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oK, bindimax - so I'm replying to your post 2 years later. But, anyway - you bring up a good point. As much as I enjoyed the UK Life on Mars, I often found it difficult to follow the dialogue because of the accents and the slang. Also, as you point out, I (an American) don't know much about what England was like in the 70s. I visited there in the mid-70s but I was young and it was only for a few days.

One of the most stunning, and culturally relevant, moments for me in the US version was when Sam first gets back to 1973, looks up at something in the distance, and exclaims "No Way!" And then the camera pans up the World Trade Center. I was alive in 1973 when the World Trade Center finally opened, and I was in NYC when the towers came down in 2001. I worked in those towers, although on that day I was not there. I lost colleagues and friends that day and met new friends who worked rescue and cleanup. I knew firefighters who fought the flames, cops who set up and patrolled the perimeter, volunteers who served coffee, people who donated dog food for the cadaver dogs. I could smell jet fuel and burning flesh days later and miles away. Before the towers came down, I could see the smoke rising into the sky from 20 miles away.

That single scene in the US version could not have been more culturally relevant for me - and it is probably the one scene in any TV drama that packed that much of a punch for me.

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The yanks are a very insular bunch. Everything has to be tailor-made to suit them due to their non-existent knowledge of life outside of North America.

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However, Americans could be more like Anamaria Sparrow above who like TV made by different counties but their TV producers don't give their audience a chance.

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John Simm will always be Sam Tyler AND The Master!

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"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" Hmmm a quote from an Englishman!!
I am from the U.S. I almost always believe that the "original"of a particular show is the best. I have never been a fan of the U.S. version of "The Office". I don't think that there is anything wrong with copying. We all do it. Look at your clothes your shoes and everything else you own. I have witnessed that a lot of us westerners dress and behave very similar. I loved the original "Life on Mars". I don't think it can be improved upon. I do, however believe that a similar show with a similar story line and the same name can exist. You can not compare the two. If you want to enjoy the second one. You have to think of it as a different show. I really like the U.S. version, but they really botched the ending. I am not a writer, but I could have written a better ending! ;-)

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you don't have to say rude stuff. We make a lot of our own Original shows that are very popular around the world. And not everyone in The US is the same. I love Doctor Who and almost anything on BBC. Sometimes it is hard with us getting shows late so people want to make their own versions. Luckily Doctor Who was only like two weeks later for the premiere of the new the new season or I would go crazy. Yes we both speak English and understand it but both countries do have different culture and meanings for things.

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it's just not true. You have to be fair. Brilliant Six Feet Under and Sopranos, for example...

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Oh, give it a rest. We saved your asses in World War II!!

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Yeah, well we saved your asses in World War III!

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Actually Russia did.


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I think that the Brits have some really great shows but they don't always translate easily to American television. I watched the original LoM and sometimes the accents can be confusing, certain words they use and some cultural references are things most Americans wouldn't be able to appreciate. Especially with a show like this, we want to see America in 1973 because it's more interesting for us. I guess I'm one of those rare people that isn't offended by remakes and can enjoy both the original and the remake equally (if they are done well like with the Office and LoM - i hate when people dismiss the American Office because that's just being stubborn, it's a great show!)

Luckily they are showing the original LoM on PBS and it's a great treat to watch it.

I think there was a period where American tv was lacking in originality but I think as of late it's back. There are so many great, original shows on!

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Shows in the UK aren't long enough. We have 13 or 22 episodes per season, a successful show will exceed 100 42 episodes for a drama, or 100 22 minute episodes for a comedy. The only shows we import and air are those that fit that format or some variation of it.

It wouldn't make sense to import a show that may not get funding in its home country, or is only 16 episodes.

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In reply to the OP, American TV remakes British shows because, frankly, we Americans don't have enough creative writers to compose good original material to supply content for all the channels. Yes, there are some excellent American TV shows and movies, just not enough to supply all the outlets. The ratio of brainless, just plain bad, TV shows far exceeds what is good. Britain seems to have a better pool of writers and "idea people" in comparison.

The reason American TV networks don't just import the British versions of shows is quite simple: slang and certain accents like Cockney don't translate well, despite the common language. I watch a lot of British TV shows from DVD sets and I usually have to turn on the subtitles so as not to miss something. Even then, I still don't know what is meant when a guy is referred to as a "right ponce," or what "punters" are, or what "nicked" means (I've heard this word used in more than one way: to steal or to be put in jail), etc. When you are listening to a flow of dialogue and you don't understand some words, it certainly interrupts the dramatic rhythm. And you miss some of the humor as well. Life On Mars contains more slang than, say, Inspector Morse, but at least with subtitles I can know that I haven't mis-heard a word - only that it's a word I don't understand fully.

I'm really thankful for the availability of British shows here in the US. They are very often the best reason to sit down in front of the TV.

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Let's put jingoism aside and look at reality.

It's not a matter of the US not having enough creativity -- it's a matter of the US having so much need for content.

The US produces far more television and film than other countries -- and it's not even close. It's exponential.

In terms of NEW content, the US produces far, far more new television series each year than Britain ... so it's not like they're building around others' ideas.

Because there's so much need for content, the US comes up with content from a variety of sources. The vast majority of US television content is based on new, original ideas (or as original as one can expect, given that everything's been done in some form). But they also bring to the screen new, American productions of foreign shows (this is a small, small percentage of what's on American TV), updates of old American series (Hawaii Five-O being a recent example), and, occasionally, series based on successful films.

Why do they do the new productions? Partly because with so much demand for content, no country could fill the necessary slots with new ideas, but mostly because there's a higher probability of success with retreads. Remember that US television production doesn't get as much in the way of government subsidies as British television, so they have to rely far more on commercial success.

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Because with the rare exceptions, Top Gear and Life On Mars fir example, British TV is complete and utter *beep*




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Well just looking at the programmes you comment on we can all conclude that you are the worst pleb imaginable. I mean my god, how can someone have such terrible taste in anything?

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