Tomahawk Chop!
Gotta love they inc. that in the movie. My alma mater invented it.
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MovieChat Forums > Balls Out: Gary the Tennis Coach (2009) Discussion > Tomahawk Chop!
Don't gotta. It's one of the more ignorant parts. Being of Cherokee heritage, I know that they were an advanced eastern seaboard civilization, agricultural, trading, living in wooden and brick buildings as soon as those were introduced by Europeans, living in permanent structures for long before that, having been highly insturmental in taming and civilizing all native peoples in that huge area of the southeast.
A Cherokee scholar was the first to invent a written alphabet for a native people, during the decades before the entire culture was kidnapped by the so-called "civilized" US Army and force-marched to the Oklahoma territory at the cost of fully 25% of their lives. This man did so in an attempt to unite and educate his people in order to avert this tragedy, to no avail. The white man's "civilization" (read: firepower and ruthlessness) was just too far ahead of these "primitive savages". (The rationale for the forced evacuation was the same as that of the Third Reich's takeover of Europe: lebensraum - living space - room to expand.)
My point is that I seriously doubt that even back then, anyone, even given their strong oral history tradition, could remember the last time any of them had had occasion to use a tomahawk. In other words, the tomahawk chop was an "injun" cliche thrown in by an ignorant Hollywood writer who didn't know a Cherokee from an Apache, who thought they were all named Tonto and wore face paint, feathers in their hair and loincloths.
And your comment just goes to show which culture is still the more ignorant, primitive, and savage.
Good going, white eyes. Go back where your forefathers came from. Me, I'm already there. Here.
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Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last fish is dead, only after the last river has been poisoned, only then will the White Man learn that he can not eat money. -- Cree Prophesy
Wow, too much thought put into that previous post. Just saying it was funny to see it thrown into a movie. Besides, at my school which does the chop, they are endorsed by the Seminole Tribe. I think they can care less if Tomahawks are used or not.
http://www.seminoles.com/genrel/080505aab.html
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I'm not worried about what some Uncle Tom-Toms think, or about what you find funny with your pathetic shallow sense of humor, or what you 'think' (to use the term loosely) for that matter, especially if your idea of 'thinking' is, oh, don't strain mah brain, d00d!
Go back to sleep, little boy, it's probably time for your nap anyway. Don't forget your blankie.
And don't bother replying. I just put you and your user name in my twitfilter, way up where the sun don't shine, just like your head.
Native_Son - If your not worried about what I think, then why did you reply? I guess all you know what to do is insult people. Of course i'm sure you will just reply back with more worthless text. Post something productive or don't post at all.
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Wow.... heavy. While it's laudable that your forefathers 'invented' a written alphabet round about the 18th century, ya gotta say there may have been consequences to other peoples having invented the same thing more than five thousand years before you.
One of those consequences is that your people weren't able to develop the technology needed to design and build weaponry that would have put them on a level with the invaders, who effortlessly took over.
Ancient European proverb say 'People who can't keep up, fall by the wayside'. It was ever thus.
Yah yah, the Western European culture certainly has proven its superiority through advanced firepower.
http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx229/BigEffingYawn/SuperiorFirepow er.jpg
I can't wait for those technologically superior extraterrestrials to come along and round you and your family up as tasty farm animals.
Hey, it's just Darwinism! Don't like it? Invent better weapons!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0734684/
Western European culture (or the British Empire as we liked to call it) was superior by any measure - not just firepower. It remains the greatest empire the world has ever seen (or is ever likely to see now that the UN keeps us all from invading each other). Little wonder you and anyone else that stood in its way got destroyed.
I'm not saying that's right or moral (in fact it's somewhat repugnant), but it's just real life. Your ancestors killed buffalo and all sorts of other creatures that hadn't harmed them, simply because they had superior weaponry and skills that put them at the top of the food chain, so it is somewhat disingenuous for you to complain when the same treatment is handed out to you.
Sure, one day something might turn up from deep space and eat us, but there would be little point in my family and I whining, would there? We'd simply have to accept that we weren't able to match their abilities. A bit like those poor buffalo families had to accept that your ancestors could pick them off like flies?
I suppose you could take the purist view and insulate yourself in Native American areas, living traditionally in the way your ancestors did, but clearly you've decided to go the other way and embrace what 'Western European culture' brought you, such as the internet, films about weird tennis coaches and the like. That's fine, it's up to you, but you can't then whine just because someone's appropriated your trademarked 'chopping' hand sign. Can you?
Sorry that you 'can't wait' for aliens to come and get my family; it's a sad person that wishes ill on other humans (ancient Brit proverb). But hey, keep watching the 'Outer Limits' and scan the skies every night - your wish might come true and then you can scream "I TOLD that michaeldecker this would happen!" just as the aliens hit you with the extermination beam.......
Western European culture (or the British Empire as we liked to call it) was superior by any measure - not just firepower. It remains the greatest empire the world has ever seenMaybe the most heteregenous, but not the largest neither the most powerful (for its time), which is the Mongol Empire: Novgorod to Kiev, Bagdag califate, parts of India, the whole China, and countries between, failing to invade Japan because of a storm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mongol_dominions1.jpg share
Jeees....the wikipedia fact game. Ok, I'll play.
British Empire: 'it was the largest empire in history...the British Empire held sway over a population of about 458 million people, one-quarter of the world's population at the time, and covered more than 13,000,000 square miles: approximately a quarter of the Earth's total land area'
Mongol Empire: '...covering 12,741,000 sq mi, 22% of the Earth's total land area, and held sway over a population of over 100 million people'
Oh, and you spelt 'heterogenous' wrong.
100 million people in 1200 versus 458 million in 1950? Would need the total population on Earth, at these times, to get the final answer, but definitively, the probability goes for the Mongol Empire. As far as the square miles goes, the number is quite imprecise for the British Empire, and given that it occured in modern time, while being overly precise for the Mongol one, these figures sound fishy all by themselves.
Oh, and I spelt 'heterogenous' wrong... whatever square miles it may add to the total for the British Empire.
So what bit of 'it was the largest empire in history' was unclear?