questions about ending


So did gerardo end up with sergio or jonas? I was confused, with come undone i was never confused, but with this sometimes i have no idea what was going on.

Also, in the last disco/bar scene, was it a replay of the earlier bar scene when jonas first met that other boy?

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Yes, the last disco/bar scene was a replay of the earlier bar scene. There are several places where previous scenes are revisited from different perspectives. I think that the very limited dialog made it difficult to tell when that was happening.

I'm glad to see that you were confused about the ending as well. I thought that I had missed something. It almost seems that the final bedroom scene has two different endings. First Gerardo and Jonas are together in a hotel room and after Gerardo comes out of the bathroom he leaves and Jonas is left alone. Then after the replay of the above mentioned disco/bar scene and a scene that appeared to be Gerardo going back to Sergio for the last time it seems like a flash back to the hotel room again. Only this time after Gerardo comes out of the bathroom he stays there with Jonas.

I've replayed it all several times and I'm still at a loss.

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That scene in the hotel room with a dual ending I took it to be the present and a flashback to the past. In the end Gerardo went back to Sergio (smart boy!). That is further reinforced by the clever way that the director used the credits to finish the story.

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I read it a bit differently. During the closing narration I understood that, although they were no longer together, Gerardo and Jonas still loved each other and years later they talk on the phone. I see it that Gerardo is thinking back to the last time they were together and wishing that Jonas hadn't just turned his back in the bed when Gerardo came out of the shower. He seems to want his last memory of Jonas to be better than it actually was. That's just my interpretation, I guess it's supposed to be a bit vague?

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So 5 years after it's released I'm watching the movie and am at a complete loss as to how it ends. I thought Gerardo and Jonas got back together but then the posts on here have left me in doubt.

Am interested to know why/how you thought the credits finished the story?

Tbh, I just thought they got back together after that phonecall and the "flashback" was what happened after they got back together lol i.e. after the phone call, they get back together and Gerardo takes a shower and then Jonas extends his arm and they go back to bed...

So I guess my take tp this dual ending is before Jonas professed his love and turned his back, the two were separated (first ending, with Sergio) but then all that changed after that phone call sometime later.. (second ending, with Jonas)

Not sure what's the meaning to the poem/phrase at the end which traslates (using google) to "Here is the result of all this time that I wanted to tell you I loved you. That is all".

Interested to know your thoughts :)

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There are several places where previous scenes are revisited from different perspectives...the final bedroom scene has two different endings...

Such repetitions and alternate versions are narrative devises typical of the Nouveau Roman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nouveau_roman

The prototype for this film is the well known classic, Last Year at Marienbad, www.imdb.com/title/tt0054632/, whose scenario (there's practically no dialogue) was actually written by Alain Robbe-Grillet, the leading writer of the Noveau Roman trend.

Robbe-Grillet regarded many earlier novelists as old-fashioned in their focus on plot, action, narrative, ideas and character...this vision of the novel can be construed as developing from earlier writers' suggestions and practice. Joris-Karl Huysmans, ninety years before, had suggested how the novel might be depersonalised; more recently, Franz Kafka had shown that conventional methods of depicting character were not essential; James Joyce had done the same for plot...






If we are to be brothers, let us be brothers for life, die together.

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Extraordinary and magnificent film. I was shocked as any.
Regardless of what I want;
The final reunion between Gerardo and Sergio. Gerardo said in a whisper, "I love you" I bet on that end.
Another end dramatico less serious resume Gerardo Jonas and his first love.
Traduccion.
Extraordinaria y magnifica pelicula. Me ha impactado como ninguna.
Independientemente de lo que yo quisiera;
En el reencuentro final entre Gerardo y Sergio. Gerardo dice en un susurro " te amo " yo apuesto por ese final.
Otro final menos dramatico seria que reanudaran Gerardo y Jonas su primer amor.

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"I didn't really love the movie. I was so frustrated by Gerardo and Jonas. I just wanted them to break up or make up but stop making each other miserable. Gerardo drove me nuts with trying to get Jonas to be intimate with him. I was actually pretty glad he wound up with Sergio (plus Sergio was HOTTTT!)"

Totally agree. To my understanding this was an extended version of a 20 minute short film. I think they could've extended it to just one hour and it would have been more powerful for me. The two and a quarter hours of meandering plot drove me nuts.

Could someone please translate the last text just before the ending credits began? There was something written in Spanish and my subtitles turned off for some reason.

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I completely agree with your interpretation of the ending, but less so with your appreciation of the film as a whole: It is an inescapable, and seldom confronted truth about human relationships that you never really know how much you're in love with someone until they're no longer there. Often the pain involved in reaching this conclusion is sufficient to render impossible any return to how things were before. I think this film, so unreal in many respects, never lets go of this fact and takes the time neccessary to show how such a situation can come about. My only criticism is that it is a little to clever and a little too beautiful, to the point where it's bit distracting. If that's really a criticism. Suffice to say, if it were 4 hours long I'd still be watching it...

Incidentally, the voiceover at the end is almost a direct quote from Marguerite Duras' "L'Amant" - worth a read if you get the chance, as it adds a little to the film (and confirms your view of the ending).

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I somehow really loved the movie, although it kinda broke my heart, because I so much wished for a happy ending for Jonas and Gerardo. For me they were made for each other, Gerardo knew it and Jonas later also recognized it (again). I have never had that feeling with Gerardo and Sergio. So my romantic heart would love to read the end in the hotel room as a happy end for Jonas and Gerardo, but my mind says its not that way. Nonetheless, its heartbreaking, because it looks like two lost lives, as they both cry about it and will never stop to love the other one and will never love someone that way. And that reminds me of myself :(

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this movie is a bit confusing. I took the last scene to be the missing scene at the beginning of the scene. I saw the movie again and Jonas and Gerald are wearing the same exact clothing from the beginning of th movie where they meet at the steps to the last scene where they enter the bedroom.

Spoiler so dont read if you dont want to know...basically the whole movie.

The movie starts out with Jonas and Gerald meeting at some city steps
CUT TO...
Gerald and Jonas at thier (pardon the pun)"peak" of love.

Then the whole movie happends, and yes this is way confusing. Basically Jonas cheats on Gerald. Geralds is still way in love, but Jonas is over it.

Sergio comes in the picture (who by the way i look A LOT like, it freaked me out). Geralds denies Sergio at first, but they get together.

Sergio is in a bad spot because he's head of heels but knows Gerald still loves Jonas.

Jonas sees Gerald and Sergio together gets jealous. He Tries to get Gerald back. Gerald doesn't know what to do, goes to a hotel room with Jonas, they are about to have sex, but Gerald won't let jonas take off his undies.

Sergio meanwhile is heartbroken, but Gerald finds him and they become a couple.

CUT TO: Jonas and Sergio entering the hotel room. THIs is the scene that should have come before the 1st sex scene but after the beginning of the movie where Gerald and Jonas meet on the steps.

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I took the ending to mean that even the tiniest action can change a relationship. The fact that Jonas could have just rolled over (as he "really" did) instead of open his arms to Gerardo just showed me that even the smallest action changed the course of love for both of them.

Remarkable movie.

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Sergio was gorgeous! Beautiful soulful eyes. So, ergo, you must be cute too!

I, too, was confused by the movie. Someone else mentioned 'Come Undone' and this film has a similar time-shift.

I believe Sergio and Gerald are together as a couple at the end.


That's not a hairstyle, it's a cry for help!

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I believe that the ending where Gerardo smiles and offers his hand to Jonas is a daydream, as if Jonas might have wished that is what happened, while it seems Gerardo may not really be capable of that outcome. I assume Jonas ended up with Sergio, but will keep an open mind as I watch again.

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