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The fundamental plot lacks reasoning


Like so many films, its enjoyable as it is, but the plot is founded on such an unreasonable keystone, that I just have to vote it down. By this I mean how Hobbs wanted to heist the whole diamond empire simply bc his boss wouldnt insure his wifes cancer treament. Puhleasee. This is so unrealistic it ruins the whole film for me..

- its perfectly understandable that the boss passed on granting treatment as his job is to keep finances and regulation, not kowtow to some janitors preferences.

-Hobbs seemed like a smart guy, he planned his own pension and successfully pulled it off etc .. yet couldnt budget or find a legal way to pay for his wifes treatment?

- As he seemed level headed, why did he blame his employer? This is nonsensical; he shouldve just quit, taken a loan, or whatever. However much he loved his wife, you cant just project blame on to the boss and uptake a crusade on such emotional nonsense- this goes against his level headed character.

- I also dont like the socialist undertones: the argument of 'tax (the NHS) should pay for the average person from the rich or else the avergae person gets revenge'. This also reeks of robin hood *beep* in a modern sense; A common theif or bandit who never had the balls to pursue anything exciting, so he became a janitor, but decided to go for bust in old age once he had an excuse/emotional fireuptheass

I know Im being anal, but films that are so devoid of reason to base it is one of my pet peeves. There's cheesy, then theres 'this plot is stupid'. And Im sure other ppl agree as this film completely tanked -I only gave it a chance bc it was on the tv while I was going through a bout of insomnia.

..But then again, Im wanting some dental work done- as the state refused me because 'having a hollywood smile' is not valid for social funding, I'll just ask my boss. And if he refuses, I'll just rob him blind, then blame the system *rolls eyes*

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This is actually a recent theme in movies - the evil insurance adjuster.

For many insurance policies, whether or not to pay out comes down to the subjective decision of an insurance adjuster. There are company guidelines, but in many cases it comes down to what one person thinks.

The plot point usually shows someone who thinks of insurance claims as bits of paper on their desk instead of actual human lives, and we see people being denied cancer treatment, necessary surgeries, etc. From there the plot will either hoist them on their own petard, or exact some form of revenge on them.

On a related note, a coworker once had to evacuate his house before a hurricane rolled ashore. When he got back to his house, the front door had blown open (deadbolt pulled out of the frame) and he basically had a beach in his living room.

He called the insurance company, and the claims agent on the phone was taking notes, etc. When he mentioned the door, she asked, very carefully "Sir, was the door blown open, or was it blown off its hinges? If it was only blown open, that is usually evaluated as resident neglect and not covered. However, if a door is blown off its hinges, that is a structural failure and always covered. So when the adjuster comes out to review the damage, be sure to show him how the door was blown off its hinges in the storm, okay?" and then she hung up.

Of course, when the adjuster arrived, the door was ripped off its hinges and lying in the entryway.

That's the antithesis of what we're talking about here.

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Hobbs's wife lost time senselessly because of the insurance writers. Demi Moore's character was consumed with working at the expense of her personal life. Hobbs gave her a life again. At the end Demi Moore gives the female reporter the story so that the reporter can live a more personalbe life as well. Hobbs is the antithesis of the insurance writer and that made a difference. He's hoping to change things for others to make it a better world while deterring the behavior of the insurers.

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You equate dental work and cancer?

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I could see the idea of wanting revenge on an insurance company.

But he had to wait 15 years before he found an accomplice that he knew was getting fired and would discover this ahead of time?

And then when they install cameras his accomplice manages to find a hole in them that he can exploit?

He may have been very patient but still his plan really depended on a couple of points he had no control over and never knew if they would develop back when his wife died.

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