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peak oil may be the revolution mankind has been waiting for


It is easy to get distressed watching this film. However, the continuing rise of alternative fuel technology may be just what mankind is waiting for. Currently the oil industry sucks up huge profits from the wealth of private individuals. Rather than viewing peak oil as an apocalyptic armageddon it can be viewed as a release from slavery to the oil god. Hopefully it will happen before the planet really bites us back hard for mistreating is so catastrophically.

IMO magnegas is one of the most promising technologies currently available. Not much is heard about it as the oil companies are- undoubtedly- scared witless about this technology. Check it out on googlevideo and youtube.

Check this link to see that we are not 'all doomed'
http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Congress:Top_100_Technologies_--_RD
Magnegas is 76th on this list. Imagine producing fuel for transport from human sewage and other difficult to treat waste products, such as animal entrails, that in themselves pose a significant threat to our environment (pig manure is a huge problem that could be dealt with by recycling into magnegas).

I only found out about magnegas after reading it in a book by my physics lecturer who is a personal friend of Rugerro Santilli.

The recycler unit itself may become self powering with a bit more engineering. The excess heat could be used to power 60% of the required energy to run the arc. This is not 'perpetual' motion as it is not a closed loop system. It is an open loop as it requires the input of waste as a source of fuel. The final magnegas product could be used to run a generator to power the remaining 30% with plenty left over for transport fuel.

Interestingly this invention has not taken off as the theory behind Santilli's work is 'controversial'. What is not controversial is the fact that this machine works. Rather than study it the academic community has refused point blank to accept any of the theory- one must wonder why. One of the youtube video;s states that Santilli took 15 years to develop the machine. He took 10 years developing the theory and another 5 developing the machine. It is the theory that is controversial, not the machine that demonstrates it. It is absurd that this is not on every block making fuel for every neighborhood. It is even more absurd to call the theory controversial when it is demonstrated and can be experimentally verified. We are wasting money researching 'string theory'. String theory will not give us fuel. It is highly likely it will give us nothing at all as they continue to move the goal posts to 'make the maths fit'. Untestable and unverifiable is not phsyics- it is mathematics.

Please tell your friends about magnegas. Hopefully one day people will view this with less skepticism and an open mind.


Please do not be afraid of peak oil. This movie doesnt deserve a public screening as it provides no answers to todays problems. Doom mongering is a worthless activity that gets people more attention than they deserve. It is a good video to open people's eye's to the problems of oil. The environment impact is more important however. Instead of relying on biofuels and hydrogen (both very difficult from a practical point of view- in storage and growth) look to magnegas. We are being fed these 2 options (biofuels & hydrogen) as they are the best chance for the oil companies to continuing their monopoly on metering peoples lives.


as a side note: alot of research is being done into bio plastics. we may one day be able to grow and synthesise these 'essential' building blocks from plants rather than oil. This will not mean the end of medicine as stated. Cheap useless trinkets maybe, medicine no.

any comments are welcome.

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Fusion power seems the most feasable replacement When you research it, it seems too good to be true but there are lots of projects developing there own ways of making it happen.

Free limitless energy would make possible a kind utopian society we can only dream about

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A utopian society is an illusion. People being people and our recorded history shows that we're slaves to our behavior. At the heart, we're a tribal, extremely territorial amd violent species that's wired for short thinking and we don't like to share.

And the doc makes an excellent case for how our modern society owes everything to the sheer abundance cheap energy(oil). Cheap energy that is easentially over. Notice how when the price of oil gets into the triple digit range, economies start to contract?

Notice how we're trying to get at the more expensive, harder to reach/refine stuff? This is the future and little doubt, we're headed for a collapse. Then there's the polluated cesspool that use to be our enviornment. Won't even bother with climate. Our future is bleak and dark..

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Free limitless energy would simply be overconsumed. If it didn't cause pollution, it would cause cancer or sterility. It would not be utopian even if there were no catches, humanity would find ways to fudge it up. Also we use oil for things other than energy, we also use it to make plastics and fertilizers, fusion power doesn't replace those.

Then again, I am mostly concerned about the potential for food shortages. I believe human population growth is out of control, but I would prefer it be mitigated by global birth control and sex education, rather than by starvation and resource wars.

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