DCEU


After Man of Steel they should've made a solo Batman-film, with a new writer and maybe a new director.
Next up hire new writers and director for Batman v Superman, with BETTER cameos for WW, Flash, Aquaman, Cyborg and add Green Lantern!
After BvS a WW-solo film and last Justice League.
Following with The Flash, Aquaman & Green Lantern and Justice League 2.

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I think they should have made solo MOS sequel with a Batman introduction.

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After walking out of that theater on MoS' opening day I actually thought they needed just to pull MoS from theaters, scrap the DCEU right then and there and reboot again. It was that bad. And nothing since has changed my mind.

"Who built this f#(%!^g police station." -- Leon Kennedy

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Would you have prefered they have continued from Superman Returns (which I did not think was bad)?

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It would have been better than what we wound up with. But, if DC wants a DCEU interconnected universe with multiple heroes it is better to create it from the ground up than try and throw another hero into "Superman's" world. So a reboot wasn't a bad idea, they just chose the wrong people at every turn to put it together. And mistake #2... they started it with Superman.

They never should have. They should have started with tier 2 or even tier 3 DC heroes. No Batman, No Superman. Those origin stories have been done to death. Hire a young, fresh on the scene with maybe one hit under his belt director and have him make a Flash movie (that would have worked then.) If that works then you have your creative team moving forward. If it doesn't you can pick a new tier 2 hero and try again until you find that team and hero that works. And then you bring in a tier one hero movie. Preferably WW, but Batman or Supes if you just can't resist.

Point being, they started with Superman in MoS. When it failed, it destroyed any chance they had at making a decent DCEU because A: now one of your tier 1 (and most important) characters... sucks. And B: you're building a universe on a very shaky (and actually shaky-cam) foundation. Lets say instead they had started with a... (personal favorite of mine) Dr. Fate movie. If it fails... what does that hurt? Just leave that movie and character behind and try again. But if it succeeds you have found a proven writing team and director, and you have an interesting character you can add to your new universe.

"Who built this f#(%!^g police station." -- Leon Kennedy

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I loved MOS so it did not fail for me. I think the mistake was jumping right into a crossover sequel instead of a solo sequel. Heck, they could have done a solo sequel with a Batman introduction.

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Would you have prefered they have continued from Superman Returns (which I did not think was bad)?


The original concept Bryan Singer had for a followup to Superman Returns was to "go Wrath of Khan on the sequel" and make a much more engaging film with Brainac as the villain.

That would have worked fine. For those who don't understand the analogy, Wrath of Khan was the followup movie to the first Star Trek film (Star Trek: The Motion Picture) but its done in a completely different style and doesn't reference the events of the first film at all. Only the cast and the setting (the U.S.S. Enterprise) is the same.

Having a complete "stand alone" followup to Superman Returns that brings back Routh but has a much more exciting tone and tells a COMPLETELY different kind of story would have been fine. I would have gotten a new actress to play Lois Lane and ditched the whole failed "Superman's kid" subplot from the previous movie, but otherwise kept the Returns cast.

Unfortunately, this approach was rejected in favor of a Transformers-style remake of Superman II. The "DCEU" was doomed from the start when MOS was released and got WORSE reviews than the film it was "rebooting".


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Audience reviews have been better with MOS and they count the most. SR did have better critical reviews.

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