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This show is so boring


It seems like the whole hour the show is about Les setting up camp, taking down camp, sitting around eating bugs, complaining, etc. I need some action; rock climbing, jumping off 50 ft waterfalls, killing deadly snakes. This is why Man vs Wild is the Sh*t

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But Bear really teaches nothing about survival. Les does it like it is. A lot of time on your hands to wait and think.

Bear is entertaining, but I feel I have learned nothing from his show... but that's me.

"Playin' it cool."

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Exactly. Stroud isn't going to do things that endanger his life. He has no safety squad right there to help. Many of his tactics are unconventional and not exactly "trained".


I don't think Grylls is entertaining though. He gives you a lot of misconceptions on how to survive. Stroud shows the failures and challenges of survival regardless of how it looks. All Grylls does is glorify it. It's hard to watch his show. He succeeds at everything, makes everything look way too easy, and has horrible advice for anyone that would want to apply it in a real life survival situation.

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Yeah, I would rather be stuck in the wilderness with Les. Bear would have me risk breaking my neck by jumping down it, instead of using my head and finding a way around it.

When I said Bear was entertianing, I meant it in the same way as I find CSI and The Simpsons entertaining. You know, unreal but interesting.

"Playin' it cool."

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Les and Bear are both knowledgeable just like Cody from Dual Survival. Difference is Bear's military background which Discovery seemed to believe must be displayed every 5 minutes (skydiving, animal slaying, etc.) Any of these guys would be ideal survival guides. Bear would have more expertise in climbing, hunting (maybe), and other military-based survival. Les and Cody would have more knowledge of the survival tactics of the local natives like how to catch local game or where are the wild edibles.
As for the joker saying he needs action when watching an educational program? Go watch a 3D Michael Bay movie. And don't breed.

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Then don't *beep* watch it. Watch your *beep* contrived show, and leave us alone. Problem solved.

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Bear is for entertainment, but no one in their right mind would do the things he does in the wild if they were all alone, because you would be dead.

Les is the real deal, what you would REALLY do if you were in that situation. One thing a lot of you are forgetting also, is that there are often a lot of dangerous wild animals in the places Les goes. And he is all alone. Unlike Bear.

I like both shows actually, but Bear's show is fantasy, and Les's is reality. Bear's locations are THOROUGHLY scouted beforehand. No one REALLY thinks bear just dives into caves HOPING to find his way out on the other side, do they?

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If you don't like it, don't watch it! Easy as that.

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hells yea man!!! heres proof!

1) Bear Grylls was trained by the UK SAS on his survival tactics and btw the SAS are famous for having one of the most intense training programs on the face of the earth...Les Stroud has training from...Huh? Well maybe his earlier job as a tech for Rush prepared him for the art of Hut Making... );(

2) Ive seen bear grylls take down 200 pond alligators with nothing more than a pocket knife and eat it too. Les Stroud brings peanut butter and jelly with him for sustinence...jeez i wonder if theres some dessert WalMart where he can get wonderbread for himself too?

3) Les wont drink his own pee...bear has not only drank his own pee, but did so out of a freshly peeled snake skin.

4) Bear is not only responcible for himself, but he puts the responsibility of keeping his cameramen alive too...les has no responsibility other than to himself so that he wont have witnesses see him sleep in his truck when it gets to cold outside.

5) Les gets picked up in 7 days...Bear has to find his own way to civilization.

And finally...

6) Thye Guys name is Les (As in Leslie) Stroud!!! You arent given a nickname Like Edward "Bear" Grylls unless you f%ckin earned it!!!!!!

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You are the stupidest human being alive.

Please rectify that.

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1) Les Stroud has training from various outdoorsmanship courses and experts in the fields and areas related to where he is going at the time.

2) Have you seen the hotel rooms that Grylls sleeps in at night? Half his show is multiple takes, edited or outright faked (ie store bought salmon cuz they couldnt catch one) they even changed the opening warning of the show when it became public he was a fake.

3) "Les wont drink his own pee..." because he doesn't have to. He always finds fresh water or a way to purify it. Grylls drinks it _every_ episode. I think mainly because he likes to. It's not a long term survival strategy it's a last resort technique, yet five minutes out in the wild and he's whipping it out and topping off his canteen or pissing on his shirt and wearing it for a hat.

4) "Bear is not only responsible for himself, but he puts the responsibility of keeping his cameramen alive too..." no he doesn't. They are _never_ in danger. None of them. ever.

5) "Les gets picked up in 7 days..." Yes after surviving on his own filming everything himself. "Bear has to find his own way to civilization." No they conveniently film the end segments near cinematic exit locations. Again: He sleeps in hotels every night. very nice hotels.


And finally...

6) "Thye Guys name is Les (As in Leslie) Stroud!!! You arent given a nickname Like Edward "Bear" Grylls unless you f%ckin earned it!!!!!!" _Teddy_ Bear. Childhood nickname. Anybody can give themselves whatever nickname they want. ...on tv.

you have no proof of anything but your ignorance. try google for facts next time.

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you are an honest moron... Bear gets picked up by helicopter if he feels like it, catered to by the team that follows him as he pleases and gives terrible advise on how to survive but great advise on how to get yourself killed. Les (and btw, names matter none) teaches u how to survive if u are untrained and alone. Bear shows u how entertaining u can be in the wild with a team at your back and using all your training (which 99% of ppl don't have his training so who is he filming the show for, other highly trained ppl.
You are not trained so if u get advise from someone how uses and needs his training to survive.... basically, if you need to survive and you follow bears advise, you die because you cant do what he does period

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Ow my god your the really a moron are you not, It is a well stated fact by a certain guy who is only know as chris ryan Maybe you have heard of him, Had something to do with the ill fated bravo two zero mission, A front line SAS operative, that bear grylls fact are false statements and that he was with the Reserve SAS not the Operational SAS. And his claims about combat jumps in africa a Lie, Chris ryan had operational knowledge and he says that No reserve SAS team was ever EVER deployed in africa, and if an SAS team would have been deployed it would not and will never ever be a reserve SAS squad. According to Chris ryan who himself is an survival expert Bear grylls is pretty much a fake. But suit yourself.

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You're an idiot. I'm going to prove why using all your "facts"
1. Yes Bear was trained by the SAS. However military survival is for soldiers. The most fit and toughest real men in the world. There is no way an average person would be able to do what Bear does, they would die. Les is one of the world's most renown survival instructors.

2. Les is always given supplies that the average person would carry into the wild. He was given the peanut butter and jelly (a very little amount) when he went to the Kalahari (sp?) where temperatures soared to 140 degrees! He ended up using the Jelly as bait and the peanut butter just made him more thirsty so that didn't help at all. Les is trying to SURVIVE. So attacking something that can kill you is never a risk worth taking.

3. Les doesn't drink his own pea because it carrys enough acid to eat through your stomach. It's a last resort and should only be down once.

4. First nice spelling, responcible LOL. Bear has a crew so yes he's responsible for them but there is more then one occasion when they save him so that's a give and take. Les is trying to act out situations you could really find yourself in. But he can't sleep in his own truck because well he doesn't have one with him. If Les gets hurt or eats the wrong thing he could die, he just has a little radio to keep in contact with his crew. If Bear gets hurt his crew will save him and get him out of there.

5. Les is in the wild for a week. Bear is there at most 3 days. He is placed near civilation so he can find it.

6. Seriously? Did you know Bear was given his nickname from his sister when he was a baby? Yeah he earned it.

Well I think it's clear you're an idiot. Some other reasons why Les > Bear:

1. Bear parachutes into locations. How often are you going to find yourself lost after parachuting into the wild. Not to mention all the rope he gets.

2. Bear always has water and a flint for starting fire. Les doesn't.

3. Les is his own crew and carry's around 80 lbs of camera gear with him at all times. He has to also set up all the shots of him walking in the distance. That means going back to get all his camera gear.

4. If you did what Bear shows you to do..you'd die. Les shows you how to survive, not how to look cool in the woods.

5. Les builds sheltors in every episode. Bear most of the time doesn't even bother because he's not staying put and knows he'd be out in a day.

6. Bear burns up a ton of calories by running around, how stupid is that? But I guess you can go three days without food and be okay. Les is very cautious about sweating because of the chance of getting hyperthermia.

7. Les plays the harmonoica. :p

The only thing that brings Les down is the fact that he's Canadian eh. lol.

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Your an idiot. Bear doesn't find his way to anywhere but a cozy hotel bed after each day of taping. Moron... Do what Bear does on his show, for example, jump into quicksand on purpose and *try* to struggle out of it. Just kidding, just let yourself sink.

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sorry that meant to say 200 POUND alligators. Not even chuck norris could take on 200 POND alligators with a pocket knife.

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You should try doing some actual research on your hero, not just buy into the standard propaganda. But I guess you are the best kind of fanatic. The die-hard foolish who believe everything they hear.

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I find it funny how much time all these trolls have on their hands to write crap like this.

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i agree, man vs wild is better! he moves around more and shows way more scenery in the places he's in! les just sort of sits there!

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Survivorman and Man vs. Wild have completely different vibes. Bear shows you extreme survival tips while Les documents himself surviving, just him against the elements. I understand Man vs. Wild's popular appeal, but I personally enjoy watching Survivorman more. I hope it will be around a bit longer as a counterbalance. Perhaps if Les eats a few turds every now and then, the viewing public will give him more of a chance...

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OP is a turd monger. Argument over.

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The difference between the two shows is the fact that:

1. Les presents the viewer with a scenario in which he is well prepared to be unexpectedly stranded(Doesn't make any sense). Whereas, Grylls presents the worst case scenario, in which he is presented with one choice; scavenge, escape, and survive.

2. Grylls is eccentric and has a personality that can entertain the audience, while watching an entire episode survivorman is a survival in and of itself.

3. Grylls knows far more about the subject of survival, and the comments saying "I didn't learn anything about survival from Man vs. Wild" show that the people who write them clearly didn't pay attention at all. Grylls travels and tells stories while linking those stories into the next survival technique or tip.

4. Grylls keeps his crew close, but asks for their help on the most rare of occasions, while Les keeps his distance but screams for help in the face of even the most trivial of dangers.

Les is just a normal guy with little in the way of personality and true survivability, thus Man vs. Wild is both, the more entertaining and more helpful show.

My tip to both parties of the debate; watch both shows...

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yeah

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1. Les isn't well prepared, he has objects that one might naturally expect to have in the simulated situations. If you survive a plain crash you're naturally going to have a plane to scavenge from. Likewise if your car breaks down during a snow storm you're naturally going to have a car to scavenge from. Les has also done episodes where he's left with practically nothing.

2. Survival in and of itself is entertaining. Why do you think there's an entire genre of shows based off survival?

3. I don't need Bear Grylls to show me how to guzzle my own piss.

4. Les has very rarely ever had to quit a show early. You're just being hyperbolic.

With all that said I agree that both can be entertaining. Both also have boring episodes on occasion.

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Wow. A lot of nonsense here. Just had to chime in my two cents.

Comparing Bear to Les is like comparing a Ferrari to a Jeep. Both will get you where you want to go, one gets you there with extreme flash, the other just plain gets you there.

Bear dives out of planes, skis down glaciers and rips by on seadoos. Next time any of you halo jump onto a deserted island to seek out man eating crocs, listen to Bear.

Les goes for a walk, takes a hunting/ fishing trip or gets his bike stuck in the middle of no where. Next time any of you lose track of time and bearings on a hike and need to build a lean-to and find some roots, listen to Les.

Bear will show you if in dire need, you can drink urine.

Les will show you if you're lucky and smart enough, most of the time you won't have to drink urine. (And while he didn't drink his urine from what I recall, he did distill it with a hole in the sand, some plastic wrap, container and some rocks)

I just met Les briefly at a speaking/signing. He was nice, funny and had some great advice about documentary film making. I'm sure if I met Bear, he'd be the same kind of down to earth guy. Heck, they may be jerks in reality. Who knows.

When it comes down to it, don't be silly and choose one over the other. Watch Man vs Wild. Watch Survivorman. Watch both, repeatedly. Read their survival books. Learn from them. And hope you never have to actually put these lessons to practice. But if you do, be thankful you did learn something from both of these men.

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Not really. In a real survival situation, Bear is the last one you would want to emulate. His tactics would get you killed. The only reason he pulls it off is because everything has been pre-scouted, prepared, and he has an entire crew there to assist him. Bear is for entertainment purposes only. If you want real survival skills, pay attention to Les. Ray Mears is even better.

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