Its obvious hollywood doesnt give a *beep* if they can act or not. They know it will bring in more people to see the movie. Ther wrong kind, the wanna-be gangsters coming to see a war film is disrespecting.
I had enough of rappers being brought in, from narc, smoking aces, to halloween ressurection.
Its just a waste of time.
are u stupid? Its funny why everybody bashes rappers for being actors. 50 cent isnt even that bad of an actor. Hell he only had like 3 scenes in the movie with 8 lines so why are you crying?
Signatures are soo overrated
he's th worst actor. And plus, you know its fact that they cant act and they are only brought to any project to lure more people to see the film. A real actor, take any probably has taken so mny media courses, worked in theatre, took media, acting at unversity or gone to acting school.
Take 50 cent. Was mugging people whilst these actors were working hard to become actors.
I guess you have a point about other actors getting opputunities for his part. But as i said before he only had 5 lines in the whole movie. I dont think he was a bad actor, its just that he was typecasted and i knew he would be the army thug who would get into it with the cops. but that isnt his fault.
Signatures are soo overrated
i just dont think its fair. Exspecially in a war movie. Which is a case you have to be very careful. Becuase this is real.
shareGranted, you make a good point about Narc and Halloween:Resurrection, but I totally disagree with what you said referring to Common's performance in Smoking Aces. As well with 50 Cent in this movie. And don't be so absurd as to insenuate that all rappers don't make good actors. Most of them don't, agreed, unless they're in their element (e.i. Hood movies and Gangster flicks) but you could say the same about anyone else who gets the opportunity to act coming from any other sort of career. All it comes down to is either you have it...or you don't. But seeing a rapper out of his element like 50 in this movie, is where their skills really get put to the test. And to be honest with you, I thought what little parts he had in this movie he acted with passion and great talent. And this is coming from some one who is really not a fan of his music at all, so that hinders any biases.
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Well either you can act or you can't act. LL Cool J and Will Smith were both stiff and pathetic in their first seasons on TV (tho LL had some movie face time to his credit prior) but now they are both solid screen precences. Will Smith is one of the highest paid Black male actors around so please cut the "rappers this" and "rappers that" crap. No one can act their first time out, it's just that anyone who decides to become a professional actor first makes his mistakes off camera. High profile rappers (sports stars and musicians in general) just have to do it with "on the job training" per se. Mos Def has stage credits under him so I think that might speak well for rappers, don't you?
shareLL Cool J a solid performer? If he's listed in the credits im not even interested in the movie anymore. The only 'rapper' that can act (and not that he is a top actor or anything) is Will Smith, and tbh he's hardly a rapper.
He did some songs, ala Vanilla Ice and that's it. And Mos Def sucked ass.
chill wit tha novelle dawg
"I'm Gonna Make Him An Offer He Can't Refuse."
Will Smith
Mos Def
Tupac
Ludacris
RZA
and stretching it a bit
Ice Cube
Ice T
LL Cool J
50 Cent
Common
Xzibit
are all good actors~
Is it ok if there not rappers? Billy Ray Sirus, Cher, other singers, ect.
starring in movies/TV? Do you get upset about them stealing actors could-be
roles??
If they can act, then I could care less.
Derailed had high quality acting from the rappers. Tupac, Will Smith and
stretching it to Ice T and Ice Cube are all good actors. Ludacris in Crash
was surprising good and 50 Cent really seems to be giving it his best.
I think the main problem is that rappers are talentless to begin with. In every media, whether it be "music" or movies. :D
sharethis guys an idiot,saying rappers cant act just because they rap is stupid.Alot of people are multi-talented
Look at Will Smith he's one of the best and most sought after actors in Hollywood and i dont here you arguing about Mr."Marky" Mark Wahlberg,if you didnt know he was a rapper before he was an actor.
Using Will Smith as an example is moronic... He was never famous for his music. He became a famous actor for getting some good roles and being a genuinely talented actor.
These other morons are getting acting jobs because they're rappers, not because they can act.
Will Smith and Marky Mark, were well known for being rappers(and Marky Mark
modeld a bit I believe) before they started acting, so yea...
Other singers/ect get acting bits all the time, not always pretty acting, do you hate those "morons" because there getting roles because there famous for something besides acting? Or do you just hate rappers, I personally love
the SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET NIGGGGAAZ and the MOVE BITCH GET OUT THE WAYZZ.
I havent seen alot of movies with rappers that did a bad job, please name
some.
I hate them for getting paid alot of money for being talentless thugs, who by any standard are the scum of the earth and for ruining decent movies with their wanky acting.
If a guy with a moustache and a pickup truck shoots someone, it's murder. If a guy with a giant necklace and baggy pants does it, it's "gangsta".
Will Smith was plenty famous before becoming an actor. He's been rapping since the 80's, although I fully agree about casting rapper or entertainers from other medias. Ex rappers being nominated for oscars should show you though that some of them can act. But its terrible to see Busta, 50, Eminem, Mos Def etc acting. I'd have to say that the onnly rappers that have done good as actors is Will Smith and Mark Wahlberg.
shareHoly Cow, I had no idea Wahlberg was a rapper. *weeee good vibrations*
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ROFL @ BringBackClassicTV!
When did I say anything racist? And yeah, I "be hatin" them. I'm actually quite talented, my mummy says so.
The fact of the matter is, anyone who writes or plays MUSIC for a INSTRUMENT is more talented than a rapper. They have learned and practised a skill and whether they make $1,000,000 or not, they are still alot more talented than these guys who TALK to a BEAT for a living.
I'm not jealous of them, I'm sad for society that kids are growing up with these morons as role-models. What you've said about Hell's Angels is irrelevant because they aren't in the media's spotlight. They aren't being beamed into the minds of young kids. It's okay, it'll still be fun for you when you have kids one day and one of them gets shot at school by some punk with a 9mm hidden in the back of his pants or when your kid is "rolling" with a gang. It'll be funny. I'd laugh.
You're taking it personally and calling me an A-Hole. Assuming that I'm racist because I don't like a pathetic form of expression. You're assuming that because I don't like drug dealers, thieves, murderers and low lives that I don't like black people, who's the stereotype here? Me for all that, or you for straight away playing the race card?
You're missing the whole point here anyway. 50 Cent can't act, so he shouldn't. The end.
Will Smith/Tupac/Ice T/Mark Walhberg/Mos Def/RZA/Big Boi/Andre 3000 are all fine actors. I can go ahead and put Ice Cube and Xzibit on the list also...
TI, 50 Cent, umm I'm stumped, are bad actors...
Rappers get money, so there not gangsters anymore... But then again, there
influencing toooooons of young minds.......... So take a gangster off the
street, and make a new army through there music??!?
I'm not gonna argue that rapping is more than just talking to a beat,
and that because there is one song about some dude saying hes crispy
over and over for ten minutes, all rap songs are meaningless *beep*
and that mixing beats is simple. Because I don't wanna waiste my time.
But can you tell me some movies that rappers destroy??! Any movie
were a rapper did a bad job acting, was a bad movie to begin with.
"mixing beats is simple"... completely off base. do you know who pharrell is? then you might know who the neptunes are. they are one of the most prolific hip-hop production duos of all-time. not only are they responsible for a stream of classic hip-hop records, they branched out to pop, rock, etc. the neptunes compose everything from scratch. they use a variety of instruments: live drums, guitars, keyboards, synthesizers, saxophone, percussion... just to give some examples. to discount their craft as simple is mind boggling. i think most of the statements about hip-hop on this board are due to ignorance on the topic and and probably to a greater extent, simply not caring. to say mixing beats is simple means you have no idea how the process works. hip-hop production can be as intricate or even more complex than any other genre of music. like you said, a person saying they are crispy for 10 minutes doesn't take much talent... BUT that's not representative of all of hip-hop. that's like me saying hard rock music isn't all that difficult b/c it doesn't take much talent to scream over power chords.
shareyour the one way off base...
I wasnt dissing rap music or saying its all talentless, I was saying I'm
not gonna argue you it and waiste my time.
*this is gonna be long*
this is also a stupid comment. there are several rappers or those involved with hip-hop music that play instruments or compose their own music. currently, the prime example would be kanye west. the roots compose all of their tracks (drums, bass, guitars, keys--all live). really, if you ever read lyrics from RESPECTED lyricists then you'd prolly be surprised. listening to a 50 cent or eminem song is not a good representation of the majority of hip-hop music. and to say that rap is simply a person talking to a beat for a living is completely absurd. i think just because rap is defined by 50 cent, TI, Snoop Dogg, etc. on MTV and popular media outlets, people forget that there is much true talent in the genre. hip-hop/rap is like any other music genre. i know a fan of rock music wouldn't want me lumping in whatever TRL flavor of the week band and making generalizations about the entire genre based on a few bad acts. "a pathetic form of expression"... that's just a sad and uninformed opinion. and saying "because i don't like drug dealers, thieves, murderers, and low lives" and following it with "who's the stereotype here?" is completely hypocritical. i mean, do you know mos def and talib kweli? guess that!?!?! they haven't been any of those things. legendary hip-hop group de la soul? sorry, the only thing they are guilty of is that they just love new york and hip-hop. kanye west? sorry, not him either! in fact, he went to an art academy. oooh, he's real gangsta isn't he??? that's like me saying ALL white people that listen to emo are depressed and cut themselves... and have ugly hair.
why are those images (drug dealers, thieves, murderers, low lives) the popular images? OH I KNOW! because WHITE record execs like jerry heller and jimmy iovine want to give those images to the masses because that's what people buy and to do so, they let the artists who produce that kind of music be the one's that are marketed full force. jerry heller moreso than the actual groups was responsible for the sub-genre of "gangsta rap" to become popular. without him, nwa (and eventually dr. dre and ice cube), eazy-e and such would have never gotten off the ground. even more importantly, the majority of these stereotypes and stories of drugs, violence, etc. are simply manufactured in the studio. a lot of these so called "gangsta rappers" aren't living the life they rap about. in the mid-90s, there was a native tongues and neo-soul movement led by groups like more conscious blackstar, de la soul, the roots, a tribe called quest, common and they produced a brand of hip-hop far different from what's on tv and the radio. guess what? after a while, that sh*t simply didn't sell. sex sells, violence sells, stories about drugs sell, stories about gangs sell... the rappers who decide to touch on those topics (or are created in those molds)... well they sell and get known. what does 50 cent rap about? violence, drugs, sex. for mtv, for clear channel, for bet... this is what gets viewers. this is what gets listeners. this is what gets buyers and ironically, the majority of hip-hop's buyers are WHITE.
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"Using Will Smith as an example is moronic... He was never famous for his music."
That is a stupid comment, Will Smith won a Grammy in 1989-and he was first recognized for his music and continued it(and was successful again) in 1997 with "Big Willie Style" which went multi-platinum and his next album "Willenium" went multi-platinum once again.
By the way Mos Def and 2pac are great actors-everyone else is either average or they suck.
yeah, i was about to say. will smith was one of hip-hop's first bankable stars. if you grew up in the late 80s, early 90s and paid any attention to hip-hop, you would know dj jazzy jeff and the fresh prince. he was selling major records before he even got on fresh prince (the show). when you thought of that era of hip-hop... run-dmc, beastie boys, eric b and rakim... these were the big names and dj jazzy jeff and the fresh prince were definitely on that level.
share"Using Will Smith as an example is moronic... He was never famous for his music."
That is so ridiculous, Will Smith had a lot of memorable rap classics in before he acted-"Parents just don't understand" and "summertime."
Mark Walburg also was a rap superstar in the early 90's before his rap career died down in a second-it took some time(until most people forgot that he was Marky Mark) until he can establish himself as a good actor.
Mos def is a great actor, he just needs one more good film to get more acting recognition.
And if you want a "Gangster" who can actually act- look at 2pac, he is a excellent actor.
Kamma-mason and a few others are cumshots their mothers should have swallowed.
I love how people are saying rappers that are good actors now were never rappers, but it was their window into the entertainment business...whether they rap now or not, its how they got noticed, so shut it.
Ice Cube is a good actor, he's getting better, as are the other guys..they want to get into movies, let them, if u want to whine, dont BUY THE DAMN MOVIE TICKET, go rent it and whine about it to your god damned self.
Using Will Smith as an example is moronic... He was never famous for his music.
Maybe the OP of this forum doesn't like rappers or rap music? I would have to say Dre 3000 & Mos Def are mutli talented individuals (rap, movies). There are my picks for great actors. Let's not forget the afore mentioned Mark Wahlberg and the later Tupac Shakur.
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You disloyal, fool-a$$, b1tch-made punk!
Look at Will Smith he's one of the best and most sought after actors in Hollywood and i dont here you arguing about Mr."Marky" Mark Wahlberg,if you didnt know he was a rapper before he was an actor.
Yeah but, Mark Wahlberg can't act either. His lines sound so contrived. Another rapper.
shareI find your remark idiotic, and one sided. They get oppertunities sometimes they win and other times they dont. Eminem did well, Mark Walberg did well, Common did well, Mos def is o.k, LL cool J isnt a great actor but is respected for the roles he protrays. And it takes alot of skill to rap, if you dont like rap then thats your opinion tell that to the millions of fans of rap world wide, by saying something stupid like that you piss on alot of hard work and in some cases real art. Its like me saying that picasso is talent less because I dont like his work (I dont).
shareEfffing racist thread.
sharesupergully read my reply, I didn't even read your second huge ass blob of text
because I didnt want to waiste my time.
"Rapping" isnt easy, most people who do it sound stupid. Mixing beats and playing an instruments takes alot of talent and Tupac and even Will Smith have
some really touching songs, and like I said before I don't mind the SKEET
SKEET *beep*
This whole time I've been asking when rappers did all these bad acting jobs.
I never saw any of it.
I dont want anymore dumbasses getting on my case because they didnt understand
me.
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Well 50 Cent is going to be in a movie with Robert Deniro and Al Pacino I think. What do you people think about that?
shareLMAO Holy crap, this topic is full of it.
LOL @ the fact that tons of people didn't know that Will Smith was very famous in rap before he began acting. He's practically a pioneer in the rap genre.
Mark Walberg was also a rapper first, yet, no one have issues seeing him in movies.
Mos Def was actually an actor before he started rapping. He been to schools for theater and film. He just rapped because it was another skill he had, and it was far more bankable, which is very true in his case. A guy like him would rap first, because he's been doing it since he was a kid, then hop into acting once he has facial recognition, something rap provides for artists.
What about Queen Latifah? She a very good actress... much like Walberg and Will Smith, she's so good we forget that she was a rapper.
And then, you have character actors, and rappers are no exception. There's no difference of a rapper who shows up repeatedly in roles pertaining to their character or rap persona, like hood movies and gangsta(and even cop) movies. That is the same thing as actors like Danny Trejo, Benicio Del Toro, and countless others actors who were in a million movies playing these typecast parts. Character parts are a very necessary element in film.
And to comment that rap take no talent, well, I suggest you yourself hop in front of 500-10,000+ people, with songs you written personally, and hold a show. See how easy that mess is. It ain't.
And with rap, many of rappers, emphasis on mainstream rappers, are acting while they rap anyway. Being able to adopt a persona is a key part of acting.
I agree. "Something the Lord Made" with Mos Def is an amazing movie. If you haven't seen it, you're missing out.
shareAren't most rappers actors to begin with? I mean the whole "gangsta" and growing up poor/ghetto thing is usually an act, as in Make Believe, so it makes sense that rappers become actors. They usually pretend to be someone else from the start of their careers.
sharethats because all rockstars can act? lol people are so ignorant sometimes.
share50 was actually better than I expected. From seeing how get rich or die tryin' wasn't anything but him acting like he's in a rap video for more than an hour this movie actually had him acting, imo.
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