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Do you think that Jesus is real?

posted 9 years ago by Scatskitties
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I was raised in the church, and I honestly hated it (long story). When I became an adult, I stopped going to church, and I only ever set food inside a church now for baptisms, weddings, and funerals. However, I have always believed in God and Jesus because I was taught from an early age that they were real. However, the longer I have been out of the church, the more I have started to believe that God and Jesus are made up mythological characters like Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Roman and Greek gods, etc. This saddens me because I would like to think that there is someone out there looking after us and that we will all go to a magical place called Heaven when we die, but I just don't believe that it is true anymore. On the other hand, I am kind of afraid not to believe and have it all be real. Then I would be in Hell for all of eternity. What do you think?

[–] soltar76 9 years ago

I think Jesus as a historical person likely did exist. A lot of the other things other I feel is fabricated afterwards.

[–] cleverestbunny-430-409659 9 years ago

He still exists. He existed before He came down to save us and He will come back. He promised.

[–] AngryNegroMan 7 years ago

He promised to return in the first century 3 times, never happened

[–] wallacesawyer 9 years ago

If the so called Jesus existed, more than likely Jesus was a kind man who preached being a good Jew. And then stories of him exaggerated to the point he had magical powers and was the Son of God, if such a being even exists. And here we are today.

Exaggeration plays a big part in our beliefs. Jesus barely spoke of Hell, and yet prophets used Hell to scare people into converting to Christianity. And apparently something as simple as jealousy could send us to ever lasting damnation. Or in the case of gays, simply being born.

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[–] AngryNegroMan 7 years ago

Hell is not mentioned in the Hebrew bible, Genesis through Malachi. Sheol is what jews believe in which is basically just death, blackness.

Jesus YAHUSHA was not a "Love everyone " kind of guy. The gospels present him as a righteous rebel against the Jewish rulers and people. Read the cleansing of the temple where he flipped over tables, released animals, and beat people with a whip

[–] revengine 7 years ago

Or in the case of everyone, simply being born.

Fixed it for you. Unless you accept Christ's forgiveness, you're not making it into Heaven. Period. So stop making homosexuals feel especially condemned.

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[–] wallacesawyer 7 years ago

And apparently something as simple as jealousy could send us to ever lasting damnation. Or in the case of gays, simply being born.

Or in the case of everyone, simply being born.

Fixed it for you. Unless you accept Christ's forgiveness, you're not making it into Heaven. Period. So stop making homosexuals feel especially condemned.

What I meant was to the highly religious nut jobs out there being gay automatically dooms you for eternity, regardless of being Christian or not. I got nothing against the gay community, so you don't have to make it sound like I do. There are a lot of petty excuses for "sins" that simply irritate me.

Unless you accept Christ's forgiveness, you're not making it into Heaven.

Well on behalf of the most humans beings who have ever lived, fück him.

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[–] bastasch8647 8 years ago

I think Jesus was real - to disprove his existence would be to disprove all of Paul's seven authentic letters in some of which he mentions his personal knowledge of Jesus' brother James, of Cephas (Peter), and John, and his familiarity with Jesus' teaching on divorce, his knowledge that Jesus was a figure of recent history who was executed "in Sion" (Jerusalem). So far, Paul has not been invalidated, at least not to my satisfaction.

I don't take Jesus' nature/water-walking/water-into-wine-type miracles literally, but I do take the rest of it at face value, e.g.,

When Jesus says "the Father and I are one", "who sees me sees the Father", he's only making a claim common to divine union mystics.

Jesus' socioreligious roles match those of such figures who are very well documented cross-culturally -

Jesus heals disease, casts out demons...
... is a religious reformer
... a social prophet
... a renewal movement founder
... a charismatic mediator
... a transformative sage
... a wisdom teacher
... agent of his God
... etc.

All of these roles, traits and categories are well-known to anthropology. One does not need to leap to myth - pagan or Jewish - in order to accept them as believable, pragmatic elements in Jesus' life. Which to me indicates that there is no convincing reason to deny his historicity or the main features of his mission and teaching.

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[–] FirstBlood1982 7 years ago

"Santa" and "The Easter Bunny" didn't have witnesses to their lives and their miracles that were willing to give their lives to the telling of that story...Jesus Christ did.

Santa and the Easter bunny don't have centuries of archaeological study to provide further evidence to their validity, the Biblical accounts do.

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