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The largest mass suicide in history? It said on the video that it was the largest in 1978 w/ 900 dead and I've been wracking my brain trying to think of another. The closest I come is Heaven's Gate mass suicide but that wasn't even a quarter of the number of people that participated in Jim Jones massacre. I saw the movie about Jim Jones(it was made for tv, I think) and to be able to control that many people(some with force but most willingly) just blows my mind.

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Yes I think that Jonestown is the largest mass suicide in modern history by a cult. The only mass suicides that surpass the Jonestown death toll came at the end of WWII in both Japan and Germany, Japan having the highest. In the battle of Saipan I think the death toll was around 5,000, where civilians chose to commit suicide rather than face defeat/capture by the Allies. Thousands of civilians committed suicide but this was over a period of time, not one large mass suicide where everyone died together at the same time, and no one forced or coerced them to do it, although I'm sure propaganda stories of what would happen to them if they fell into the hands of the Allies played a big part.

But like Bunnyshaped said, as far as the suicide cults like Waco, Heaven's Gate, Solar Temple, etc., where there's one single mass suicide where everyone dies together at the same time, none come close to Jonestown.

It really is mind blowing and scary, I think the isolation had a lot to do with it, once they were in Jonestown they were isolated from the outside world and the only news they were getting in was filtered through Jim Jones and his paranoia. He had his voice taped and played throughout the compound literally 24 hours a day telling them that the world is a bad place and people are out to get them and there's no way out. Plus a lot of people that joined People's Temple were feeling displaced and isolated from society in the first place (blacks and women trying to get equality in the 1960's and 70's) so I guess it was easier for Jones to play on their fears and brainwash them especially once he isolated them even more when they went to Jonestown.

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I am so sick of this being called a "mass suicide". Did many of the members willingly drink the flavor aid? No doubt. But the children (over a third of those killed) certainly didn't make that decision, and many others were either held down and poisoned or told to drink at gunpoint. If there hadn't been armed guards ready to gun down anyone who tried to leave do you really think that the death toll would have been anywhere near that high? Mass murder is a more accurate description. (I'm not denying that some people killed themselves willingly, just that it probably wouldn't been very high at all if people had been given a true choice).

If the countless news articles on this story called it a mass murder/suicide I wouldn't mind so much, it is just the intellectual laziness on the part of the news media that is so irritating.

No disrespect meant to other posters...

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