Shower scene!!!!!!!!


The shower scene in the firehouse was hilarious! When Renaldo dropped the soap and it fell in slow motion! An no one picked it up!!!! LOL!!!

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yeah , then his like pick it up , i aint picking that up. :p

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yes this was one of the funniest scenes ever lol

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It only got better when Ving Rhames came in.

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Yeah awesome scene i also liked the scene early on with the fat guy in the burning building the film started really well but then broke down with the message it doesnt matter if were gay it doesnt say who we are. nothing wrong with the message it just wasnt needed why do all comedies like this have to have meanings like Click, Longest yard, just make em funny.

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why were they scared to pick up the soap?

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why were they scared to pick up the soap?


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seriously ?!

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They thought it might be "dangerous".....

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Its a widely known joke in prison, "Dont drop the soap". Its referring to you bending over and having your a$$ exposed for a raping. Also, I agree, the whole feeling Jessica Biel up thing was so stupid. For a highly regarded lawyer, she's pretty stupid.

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> A lot of the gags sounded like they were written by straight guys.

That was my problem with the whole movie. It felt like the writers, actors, and directors have never met a gay person in their lives. Every aspect of the movie was based on a gay stereotype.

I can maybe forgive the main characters for being a bit ignorant of gays since that is the whole point of the movie.

But the characters who should have known better ended up being just as ignorant and stereotypical. The lawyer, who is an advocate for gay rights just strips and asks a gay guy to feel her boobs? I think not. Straight guys don't casually ask Lesbians to adjust their balls. And big black gay guys don't mince. And guys who run a wedding business don't insult their customers.

The whole movie just felt like a big joke by people who just "don't get it." That'd be like making a movie about slavery and not using any black writers or actors.

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I disagree.

This was a moral movie. There was a moral to the story. Just to be clear, the way I see it, the moral was, "Let people love whomever they want to love." Also, there's a subtext, which is, "as long as no one's hurting anyone, stay out of their business." Or, "pursuit of happiness."

It's not a "gay" movie. It could have been about interracial marriage, & it would have been exactly the same movie. Or about rich marrying poor. Or anything else, but homosexuality & same-sex marriage is an important issue for this day & age. I'm glad that they chose to highlight some of the problems American society has with homosexuality.

The main characters weren't gay. Despite getting married to each other, it's going to take aLOT more than just living together to convert someone's sexuality.
At the same time, the main characters were never supposed to be gay. The whole point of the movie was to highlight how bad it is to force people (gay or straight) to be something they're not.

Even though the main characters were not & were never meant to be gay, imho, there are four moments in which the main characters expressed the kind of honest, heartfelt connection of two people in a deep, intimate relationship:
* when Larry was calling out his co-workers for signing the anti-gay petition
* when Chuck & Larry were fighting about marriage over the guy stuck in the air-duct
* when they were talking about the worst day on the job when they were on trial
* & that moment when Larry said, "or 'Fatso'" & Chuck turns to him, "'Fatso? Really? I only do it cuz you do it," & Larry replies, "I know, but..."

In fact, the more I think about it, I'm starting to remember more scenes which support my point, but this is already getting pretty long.

People seem to focus on the gay-jokes & how bad they were. Remember that fatty joke about Chuck eating the rat ass first? Why doesn't anybody talk about that? It was just as nasty as the gay jokes.

Getting back to the gay-jokes, it's true that some of them were in bad taste, but that's the point. They needed to show how much of a change the main characters go through. By the end of the movie, especially after the "Gay Basher gets Bashed at Gay Bash" scene, the main characters have discovered why those previous gay-jokes are so bad, & they're sorry for it.

People also talk about the use of stereotypes in this movie. Some people say that gay people would never act that way. Again, I disagree. You don't act that way, & that's great! As long as you're happy & you're not hurting anyone, great! But, there are people out there that act exactly like those stereotypically gay characters in the movie, & that's great, too! I've met alot of people like that. There are stereotypes for a reason. (maybe it helps that I live in San Francisco, anyway, back to my point...)

Even more imporantly, though, the movie uses stereotypes to highlight the subtext of the moral of the story. At the "Gay Bash" scene, it wasn't the stereotyped people who were doing any damage. "As long as no one's hurting anyone, let them pursue happiness in whatever form they like."

To put it a little more succinctly, being a violent, hateful bigot is evil & bad, while being a stereotypical gay is decent & can be fun (if you're into that sort of thing).

Sure, Chuck & Larry didn't seem very gay, but that's because they weren't & weren't supposed to be. This was a movie about two straight guys who learned a lesson about how to be better people.

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> Just to be clear, the way I see it, the moral was, "Let people love whomever they want to love."

Yes, it was. But it didn't really have any feeling or seriousness to it. It felt like a tacked on and inevitable ending. "Here's 90 minutes of jokes about gays. Oh, and by the way, don't do any of this."

> I'm glad that they chose to highlight some of the problems American society has with homosexuality.

Agreed. But they never did it in a useful way. No gays (or fake gays) were shown to have actually been hurt or insulted by 90 minutes of gay jokes and prejudice. Oh, Chuck and Larry had bursts of anger when they were picked on, but in the next scene all was forgotten.

> The main characters weren't gay. Despite getting married to each other, it's going to take aLOT more than just living together to convert someone's sexuality.

Um, yes. I know that. I did watch the movie and figured out that they weren't really gay.

> Remember that fatty joke about Chuck eating the rat ass first? Why doesn't anybody talk about that?

Because that was the character making fun of himself. As you point out, the only time anybody else in the movie called him fat he was insulted and it turned into a tender moment. Very few of the gay troubles turned into tender moments. They mostly ended with laughs and were forgotten.

> By the end of the movie, especially after the "Gay Basher gets Bashed at Gay Bash" scene, the main characters have discovered why those previous gay-jokes are so bad, & they're sorry for it.

Right. Because the writers picked a delicate subject the only way they could possibly end the movie was with a big group hug and Smash Mouth singing a song while everybody dances. Hollywood thinks that if they tack on a mushy ending they can get away with anything they want for the first 88 minutes.

I finished the movie with a vaguely unsatisfied feeling. Everything was resolved at the end and everyone learned a valuable lesson, but I never got the impression that any of the characters really cared about gay issues at any point in the movie. A week later they'll all be back to their old ways again and nothing will really have changed.

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Alos, Ving Rhames dancing in the shower was one of my favorite scenes

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That was my problem with the whole movie. It felt like the writers, actors, and directors have never met a gay person in their lives. Every aspect of the movie was based on a gay stereotype.

I can maybe forgive the main characters for being a bit ignorant of gays since that is the whole point of the movie.

But the characters who should have known better ended up being just as ignorant and stereotypical. The lawyer, who is an advocate for gay rights just strips and asks a gay guy to feel her boobs? I think not. Straight guys don't casually ask Lesbians to adjust their balls. And big black gay guys don't mince. And guys who run a wedding business don't insult their customers.

The whole movie just felt like a big joke by people who just "don't get it." That'd be like making a movie about slavery and not using any black writers or actors.


Completely agreed

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