Yawn


The Joker must be one of the hardest characters to write and portray.
From fans suggesting Crispin Glover and Steve Carrell for the role to this "film".

This guy is just trying to sound like Mark Hammil the whole time. He's okay at it, but it gets old and it sounds forced (as does his "crazy laugh"). The humor is boring, and for being a psycho analysis, it's rather superficial and predictable. "Life is a joke, and I deliver the punchline."

It handles a lot of technical aspects better than some other fanfilms I've seen (the costumes are probably some of the best), but it fails at telling a good story.


I won't conform to what I see in you.

reply

not once did he remind me of mark hamill he was basically a stand alone charecter and i hope he's in the next batman film

reply

[deleted]

Hamill didn't make a "silly performance". Watch MotP and RotJ.

And the Joker in Dead End (after watching it quite a few times) sucks.

This movie kicks ass though.

"In this business you can laugh or you can cry. I plan to laugh 'till the bitter end."-Beast Boy.

reply

I am not normally much of a fan of The Joker but I fell in love with Molnar's performance. He looks and acts the part so well, alot like the one in BTAS, yet still bringing something new to the character. With most of The Joker's live action representations I am constantly aware that it is just an actor. But I was totally sucked in by Paul's performance. I just loved watching him, through the whole film I was fascinated and I still wanted more when it finshed.

It's such a shame that they cast the wrong person for Dark Knight and that I probably won't see this version of The Joker again.
Can't wait to see what Aaron makes next.

reply

How can you tell he's wrong for the part without seeing the movie?

Anyway, this huy has no acting skill. The first trime I saw him I was like "Sweet, that guy was awesome!" But after multipe viewings, uit's sad that the only thing that holds up is how awesome Bertam was.

"In this business you can laugh or you can cry. I plan to laugh 'till the bitter end."-Beast Boy.

reply

Well I am just taking a guess here but Heath Ledger as The Joker doesn't sound very promising. But in all seriousness, your right, I can't say anything until I actually see the movie. I should have faith in Chris Nolan, after all the great choices he made in Batman Begins.

reply

You critics will be eating your words when Heath comes out and makes you wet your pants.

reply

how can you be a batman fan and not be a joker fan?

reply

Your an idiot if you think the Joker in Dead End sucks.

reply

Are you *beep* kiddding me? The guy in Dead End couldn't even act. The best parts of that movie were the cape and Bertam.

Old name #2: Complete_Nothingness

reply

His look and acting was some of the best I've seen in any fan film. You simply can't tell good acting when you see it. He's nothing compared to the guy in this film.

reply

Actually, I can. I can name plenty of good actors. None of which appear in this film.

Bat in the Sun gets the best actors for their films, whihc is why they're some of the best.

www.myspace.com/supersanity

reply

I've encountered you before, and you've already proven yourself to not be a Batman fan. Why are you still trying to prove it?

reply

I'm not going to sweat it if you don't think I'm a fan.
Plenty of other people would recognize me as one.


--
Don't make me take off my sunglasses!

reply

I doubt that, you know too little to appreciate Patient J so you can't know too much about Batman.

reply

The concept was kind of interesting, I just didn't think it was worth sitting through 30 minutes of sub-par acting and cinematography to get there. I would have been more impressed with it as a comic book.

I still maintain that the Joker is a very difficult character to get right, especially in live action, and this is not one of his better moments.


--
Don't make me take off my sunglasses!

reply

The concept was kind of interesting, I just didn't think it was worth sitting through 30 minutes of sub-par acting and cinematography to get there. I would have been more impressed with it as a comic book.

I still maintain that the Joker is a very difficult character to get right, especially in live action, and this is not one of his better moments.


Sub-par acting!? Are you *beep* kidding me!? These guys are the best! If you want sub-par acting go watch Smiegel's films. The acting is just plain awful. The Joker in his was just some guy killing people for jaywalking thinking he was doing the right thing. That sounds like something a child would make up!

reply

I do give kudos to the costumes - mostly Batman's and the Joker - as well as re-enacting some famous scenes from the comic books, but good googly-moogly, was this short fan film embarassing to watch.

The acting is incredibly lackluster. Despite an appearance that makes him seem as if he was ripped from the funny pages, Paul Molnar forces every. Single. Laugh. It is neither manical nor remotely creepy. It's just forced. For those claiming he's better than Jack Nicholson, Mark Hammil, or the late Heath Ledger - what are you smoking? Sure, none of them look EXACTLY like the Joker, but at the very, very least they can act. Paul Molnar isn't even an actor, and has only appeared in fan films and as an extra on Law and Order. As such, I don't expect much from him, but I do look down upon him when comparing him to such talented people as the aforementioned Nicholson, Hammil, and Ledger.

Even if the acting were decent, I would wonder if I'd even be able to hear it. Often the actors yell just to be heard - as if there were no sort of audio equipment on hand. No boom mikes, lapel mikes, or wireless mikes, unless I'm wildly mistaken. But it sure doesn't sound like I am.

But even if I played the movie on mute (which, combined with the hammy acting and uninspired music, I really considered), director Aaron Shoenke has a light grasp on cinematography and editing. Aaron employs shot/reverse shot and slanted camera angles, but that apparently is the length of his knowledge.

It brings me to a problem that I see too often. The fans that are empassioned enough about Batman to make fan films about him are usually, apparently, not filmmakers. That's why we keep seeing these cheap Batman fan films shot in their uncle's warehouse with a camcorder and all their friends playing Gordon, Batman, and the thugs they fight. This is why when someone like Aaron Shoenke comes along and injects some production value, all the fans swoon, because all of a sudden, it looks "professional" when in fact he doesn't appear to possess much knowledge of filmmaking. I don't know Shoenke, but I suspect all his filmmaking "skills" come from simply watching movies, instead of receiving some very much needed instruction from professionals. Even people like Sandy Collora, who has actually shot commercials for big companies, hasn't achieved much success outside of his advertisements and personal short films, and I suspect is the reason behind his wildly incohesive Dead End film. Yet, though I could criticize the writing for Dead End for hours on end, even he possess more filmmaking ability than Shoenke.

On the other side of the coin, talented and accomplished filmmakers, such as Christopher Nolan, are scrutinized for every change they make to make the characters adaptable for the big screen because all fans want is for someone to hold a camera to the comic book and make them move, since the slightest alteration to a character's persona or appearance will freak them out. One day I hope fans will realize what's possible on the pages of a comic, isn't always possible - or more appropriately - effective on film.

If there's one positive thing to come out of Patient J, it's that it helped persuade me to believe that a more traditional, gray, fabric costume can work for the Bat on film.

reply

*beep* YOU buddy! You wouldn't know a good fan film if it bit you in the ass! I doubt you've even read Killing Joke! Much less very many batman comics. Thats the only reason why anyone wouldn't like this film.

reply

No! You go *beep* your self!

Have you accepted Nite Owl II as your Lord and Savior?

reply

[deleted]