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The Concept of Outsider[or Things to do vs Napoleon Dynamite]


This film really spoke to me, it was like watching my life on film in many ways. Obviously due to budget and somewhat jagged acting abilities, plus the idea of an american audience accepting a canadian flick, this film is never going to have any true mass appeal or really be appreciated by the majority as I appreciated it last night. And that seems somewhat predictable, as mac and adam are not a part of that majority of film goers. Watching this with my room mates last night it of course reminded us all of a plethora of other films. Lonesome Jim, the Adventures of Pete and Pete, Bottle Rocket[of course], and we all agreed that a lot of people would watch Things to Do and think of Napoleon Dynamite.
I myself am not a fan of ND. It showed these outsider kids as being really one dimensional and quasi-retarded, just some laughable freaks who god put on earth for comic relief to the regular kids. This rubbed me the wrong way, probably because it made me think of my childhood and realized that is how the rest of the kids in school growing up outside of my friends probably saw me. It also is how all the kids at the party see adam, as this psycho or total nerd or retard. Adam is none of these things (or maybe a little bit of all of them-but thats okay!), these kids never took the time to get to know him -not that they should have, but had they it would have at the very least put their wild speculations to bed. If ND wasn't such a one dimensional film all around would the protagonist have been thinking the same things that adam was, or was he really as dense as portrayed?
This line of thought reminds me of Paul Giamatti[Harvey Pekar]'s reaction to seeing the revenge of the nerds in American Splendor, where he's mad that his nerd friend likes the film because in the end the dog gets the bone, but the entire time its jokes at the nerds expense. Was ND so popular because everyone was laughing at him or were the nerds watching loving it because he comes out on top at the end? I agree with Pekar, but all my nerd friends seem to love ND so what do i know.
Then there's ghost world, which seems almost a precursor to Things to Do. I feel really lucky that GW came out when I was around the age of those characters, and I saw Things to Do at the age of Adam after having nearly identical life experiences right down to the list of, what was for me, things that made me happy as a child[and what would still make me happy now]. The only sore note for me is that I hadn't made Things to Do myself, but it was inspirationally low fi so I guess I still can.
The sound track was of course brilliant, its great when you hear songs you love in a film as opposed to modern pop drudgery. I love Sufjan Stevens, David Pajo and the Unicorns and this is the first film I've heard ANY of their music in which was great.
If anyone has any thoughts on the above feel free to shoot the sh!t, I'd be interested in other opinions.

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Have you noticed that the movie spoof ND once, when both guys are in the grasse and looking at the car seller. Exactly the same shot as in ND when Napoleon and his friend are hiding in the grass. :)

Great music as well I definitivly agree with that!

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hey, thanks. its funny, this weekend i just saw KING OF KONG, the doc about the worlds greatest donkey kong players. After the film the director did a Q&A and it came up that he's been hired to direct a dramatic adaptation of the film by whatever major company and he felt this apprehension because he felt like KoK touched a cultural nerve in a really good "i can relate to this" way, where unquestionably nearly all the guys portrayed are grown up super nerds who clearly aren't the most socially acclimated people in the world [shockingly!]. So he's worried that if he takes the gig and directs the comedy version of this story its going to degrade the core of a pretty interesting story into a laugh at the losers type situation. it was cool hearing him worry about this as opposed to taking the money and running. Even if he makes the drama, which he probably should, it was cool that this was on his mind. it seemed like the basis of what i wrote this post about.

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This movie broke my heart.
Not because it spoke to me, but, because it let me realize that every minute in life is precious: and it is a shame that I wasted nearly 120 of 'em on this Community Theatre production.
A waste of time.
It tried to be too many things, when, it only accomplished one: a place on the shelves of horribly written, horribly acted, horribly directed, horribly shot movies.
Anyone who has praised this movie on this site must have some sort of personal affiliation with it.
Either they are the actors, producers, staff--- or they are related to those people.
Do them a favor: Be honest enough with them so they won't waste their time in duplicating this effort.
I'm going to play in a lightning storm, hoping it brings me back to two hours ago...

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