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Disgrace to Filmmaking


Do not watch this movie. Uwe Boll knows he sucks at filmmaking so now he's turning to making "controversial" terrible films with Postal and Seed to get attention.

In Seed, he has a baby being thrown against a metal pole... a dog being skinned alive... babies and dogs decomposing... he's just a sick, poor excuse for a human being and filmmaker. There was no message behind this film at all.

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Who are you to tell people what not to watch ? My advice is if it interests you, watch it and then make up YOUR OWN MIND about the film. As for me, I sort of enjoyed it, wasn't a masterpiece but it passed the time. 6/10. I also gave the same mark to Postal.

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you do not have senseless killing of babies in a film.

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Did you find the killing of the baby disturbing and shocking? Ever think that was intentional? In many of today's horror movies we cheer on the monster, The director wanted us to hate this monster. The killing of a baby is taboo in our society, we're not to talk about it, but sadly it happens more than we'd like to think. Be outraged that it happens for real, not in a movie.

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You can have whatever you like in a FICTIONAL film. If the film offends you, switch it off. No one forced you to watch this film (that's if you indeed did watch it) so why should you think you're important enough to tell people not to watch ? I don't know how we'd all cope without you to guide us through what we watch.

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I don't mean to defend this film. I just wonder what some of these people expected from a movie called "seed" about a deranged killer? Were they tricked into thinking it was a gardening movie or something? Is there a certain level of "acceptable" shocking gore in a movie these days? Well I wanted to be sickened, but not REALLY sickened, y'know?

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i was actualy sickened by this movie and ive seen it all man

phantasm
suspiria uncut
inferno
mother of tears (another movie that is just disgusting)
the thing

and none of those come near to being disgusting like this peice of crap why are any of you defending this movie......next you'll want televised executions or maybe we should show real life atrocaties from across the world in our schools lets screw the kids up even more lol.

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wow youve seen it all have you? were you sickened by "it all" too? doesnt really matter what youve seen, or what youre sickened by. i wasnt sickened by this movie, i just thought it was *beep* does that mean ive seen more than "it all"?
and why are you getting worked up over this movie...you think its crap, we get it, stop going around whinging to anyone who doesnt agree with you. it might actually work in your favour if you made an actual point. currently youre just claiming it was crap and expecting everyone to go along with it.

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blah blah blah blah people like you are such a waiste of internet space man, you watch movies that are ok but not great and say WOW THAT SUCKED yet you see this peice of *beep* and give it to thumbs up and if you dont give it to thumps up then stfu i DONT CARE IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH ME ANYONE WHO LIKES THIS MOVIE IS A SICKO LIKE YOU

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so i take it your personal skill is assumptions?
youre just not any good at them.
lets go from assumption number 1, i see movies that are ok and say wow that sucked, and see this n give it two thumbs up. wrong. so very very wrong. in fact, if youd actually read anything ive said on this movie, even messages to you personally, youd know i hated the movie and said its crap. i didnt get into it, and i found it so ridiculous that i laughed through most of it. remember? doubt it.
you then assume im a sicko, which ill go out on a limb and say is because you think i like the movie. otherwise what the hell are you basing that one on?
since your first assumption was wrong, we can safely say this is too.
so your actual message - when removing all the *beep* - reads something like this:
"blah blah blah if you dont give it to thumps up then stfu i DONT CARE IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH ME"
so now youre claiming this movie was good? *beep* hypocrite.

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oh and poeple like you are also the reason that movies in america SUCK cause you look at a *beep* movie like this and say its ok or its "creative" your so full of it man you should be called a toilet cause thats how full of it you are. THIS MOVIE IS CRAP and if you like it then your full of CRAP :D If your getting worked over my comment *beep* why are you replying? why are you even here looking at these posts that hate movies your gonna be like the other loser saying oh we have the right to see what everyones talking about thats like drinking something you hate just to prove how *beep* it is you dont get what i mean of course you wouldnt your a dumbass.

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oh i said its ok or creative? really? wow. id love to see that quote.
is this the best youve got? incorrect assumptions and personal attacks? not that i expected any more from someone trying to force their own misguided opinion on everyone as fact.
im not quite getting "worked over ur comment" i just noticed youre going around preaching your crap like gospel to anyone who will listen and making threads all over the place telling people how messed up they are for liking something that you personally dont...figured id give you some of your own back. looks like you just cant take it though. its pretty pathetic really, you expect everyone to listen to what you have to say, but then when someone disagrees you have the biggest whinge about it, and act like youre being attacked. sad.
i get what you mean, but if you actually understood what you were saying, youd realise how stupid that analogy really is. ill give you some time to think about it, let me know if you havent worked it out and ill school you on it, cos i highly doubt youre up to the challenge of thinking for yourself.
by the way, youre using caps all wrong, its making you look retarded...more retarded.

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"i was actualy sickened by this movie and ive seen it all man

phantasm
suspiria uncut
inferno
mother of tears (another movie that is just disgusting)
the thing"

Amazing, mider1985! You really HAVE seen it all! You have quite the range when it comes to essential, obvious classics that nearly every horror fan has seen! I love how you mentioned that you saw the uncut version of "Suspiria" which clearly demonstrates how 'hardcore' you are and how you know what true disgust is. It's time to graduate to more diverse filmmaking, casual observer.

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"ive seen it all" and then you proceed to list a few moderately gory mainstream movies. Watch Salo, Subconcius Cruelty, Revolver, Serbian Film and the like, then talk about seeing it all. This movie was tame in comparison.

actually, there are televised executions.... i see them all the time in news.

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wow arent you the voice of *beep* reason around here you should be in congress and make laws or in some church telling poeple how to live there spiritual lives, why are you even insulting the poor guy just for calling this movie what it is.......crap, garbage, and disgusting, do you actually get off on watching the sick *beep* in thie movie cause if so wow i would not wanna live near you.

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yeah how dare anyone have an opinion you dont agree with?! thats insane. only those claiming the movie is *beep* are allowed to share their thoughts, everyone else has to go to hell because theyre evil human beings. or whatever crap youre going on about.
did anyone say they get off watching this movie? nice assumption there ass.

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In my opinion, I don't understand anyone that would get pleasure from watching this movie and seeing babies and animals unnecessarily dying (unless you are a homicidal maniac too or have emotional problems)

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to be honest, i watch a lot of movies and dont get "pleasure" from them. i like transformers, ive seen it a few times. cant recall it ever pleasuring me.
if you were to say u dont understand anyone LIKING it, which sounds less like theyre getting off over it, and makes a lot more sense, then thats your problem, cos even though i personally dont, i can still understand those who do. you may wanna look into your inability to relate with others.

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And what are your thoughts? tell me what yoru thoughts are you havent given your thoughts on this your just insulting me for no good reason yes if there is a good reason then tell me what that reason is. Did i say peple were going to hell or whatever or that others should go to hell im just simply stating that anyone who would get enjoyment out of this movie has mental problems did you get enjoyment out of it then im talking about you if you didnt then mind your own buisness? Im an ass your hte one starting crap for no good reason you little punk.

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why do i have to give my opinion? im not here to prove my opinion correct now am i? so what relevence is there in what i think?
but since im such a nice guy, ill tell you, i thought the movie was crap, it had so many ridiculous flaws that i was laughing through most of it at the absurdity of the characters and their actions. i felt nothing toward the characters, including both the villain and his victims, simply because it was so unbelievably stupid i made no form of connection to the movie at all.
now back to the point at hand...
im insulting you because youre going around acting like a preacher, telling people what they should and shouldnt like and accusing them of being something simply for not hating a movie you clearly have a problem with.
youre going around talking crap to everyone, and then getting pissy and worked up when someone disagrees with you. you have given your opinion, youve opened yourself to public ridicule, so accept what you get. either counter the arguments or shutup, claiming anyone who likes this movie must have mental issues is - at best - an assumption.
speaking of starting crap for no good reason, whos making threads whinging about the movie cos youve 'seen it all' and therefore qualify yourself for the position of the limit of acceptability.
if you had a decent argument beyond your own personal opinion of acceptable moral depravity maybe i wouldnt be saying anything, but so far there has been nothing in the form of a factual point from you at all.

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Do you not get that it's not up to you what some can put in a movie? For me, the baby thing was the one thing that really hit a nerve and made me cringe. But thats why I wanted to watch this movie, to get scared. It's October for Pete's sake.

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What? Are you saying this was supposed to be a discussion of acceptable ratings standards for the international film community? I think that was what you were trying to say, that "you" can decide what is allowed to be shown in movies. If you think the "baby" scene was anywhere near any line of acceptability, I'd say it's not even close enough to debate. A similar discussion was had about the film "Feast 2".

But again I submit that you watched this film to achieve a reaction. Then when you get the reaction, you want it banned. "Feast 2" may do it also. I suggest you don't watch it. Or do watch it, I can't figure out what you want.

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i couldnt get past the part where seed kepted hiting the women in the face. I can watch a turtle getting killed in cannibal holocaust but not a cgi death scene like this. so much anger in this film

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The post title says it all that this person doesnt like the movie why would YOU click on this topic if you like the movie? If you do then whatever as for who the guy is he's obviously more sensible then someone like you. You'd probably have been happy if the movie also featured people dieing in the gas chamber in the concentration camps and why not thats REAL isnt it?

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Whoever actually liked this movie is sporting some major emotional problems you can say all you want about me and to me i dont give a flying *beep*, this movie is crap, from start to finish, crap, more crap, and worst of all its vile crap at that the only good reason to buy this movie BUY NOT SEE is that some of the money goes to peta so buy this dvd then walk out of hte store and throw it in the next garbage bin.

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Are you serious money goes to PETA? That's retarded. Everyone has a social cause these days.

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so...you dont care what anyone thinks about you...but you think someones gonna care about you claiming they have major emotional problems? why bother saying it? nobodys gonna listen to your stupid opinions when you claim you wont listen to theirs.
you might wanna only make a point once by the way, you said the bin thing already. get new material.

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Dude why dont you do something that youve never done before and contribute something intelligent to a cause ANY cause even if its here for the cause of intelligent conversation or debate. Defending this crappy movie doesnt count so please shut up already.

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i am contributing, im pointing out to any other delusional soul that youre full of crap. i dont plan on defending the movie, i know its not any good. but unlike you, i know why.

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I don't think we need to get into a pissing match with each other. The space is here for everyone's opinions - good or bad. I am a huge horror fan and I thought this movie was a piece of crap. Yes it did disturb me and yes I did have huge issues with PETA allowing the opening scene to have real footage of Chinese fur trade and the cruelty they inflict on animals. I already commented about that.

I read some of these reviews before I bought the film. I bought it anyway because, as I said, I'm a horror fan.

The cover is ridiculous showing a ghoulish girl on the electric chair and also holding a knife. Where did that come from? I think they need SOMETHING to try and sell this flick. There are no cute ghoulies in this movie. Just one big, fat, sick *beep*

It sucks, in my opinion (not yours). It's inappropriate, unnecessarily moody, long scenes that go nowhere, senseless violence (baby being thrown against a wall and being locked in a cell and made to rot), has no social redemption, no message, no real plot (just an idea or a premise). I think he made it simply to make the viewer sick and repulsed.

Again, just my opinion and I voiced it because that's what you do here. Agree or not, we still have the opportunity to voice our thoughts and feelings.

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am i missing something, who the hell are you?
i never messaged you...and for that matter i cant even see your name listed here.
you replied to something i was saying to someone else, so ill go ahead and assume youre him in a different account or something...
to which ill say youve pretty much stated my point back to me. my original issue was you telling people what to think and how *beep* up they are if they dont agree with you. i then tell you youre an idiot and you bitch about it. to which i pointed out that you left yourself open for it and i can say what i want. now youre telling me the exact same thing...
again youre not following coherent thought, i told you already it sucks in MY opinion too. though i do think youre being a whinger as far as reasons are concerned.
as for pissing contests, youve made me realise ive never actually been in one...or if i did i must have lost cos i dont remember it. hmmm weird.
anyway, you take too long to reply and i dont even remember where i was going with this. so im ending this here.

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mider1985 your a whiner, and a idiot, as are the others that feel they have a right to censor what others do or watch, I think you are the one sporting major emo issues, the only reason to buy is to support PETA?, go drown in your green tea, but do it in such a way so as not to offend the sensibilities of those unlucky enough to find you..

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SO ANYONE THAT LIKE THIS FILM IS A SICKO EH, WELL f*$% YOU ALL TO.
i LIKED IT, YES I AM A FAN OF SLASHERS AND YES I WORKED IN A SLAUGHTER HOUSE SO THOSE TWO EQUASIONS= SICK SADISTIC PERSON GROW UP
YOU NARROW MINDED PEOPLE SO IT'S OK FOR TEXAS TO COME OUT WHICH IS BASED OFF OF ED GEIN AND OTHERS LIKE THAT BUT AS SOON AS SOMONE PUSHES THE TABOO TO THE LIMIT EVERYONE GOES AS SOFT AS BUTTER BLOODY GIRLS

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You're still watching his films. He has succeeded as a film-maker.

P.S - Have you seen 'Heart of America'? Alright, it's VERY tele-movie-esque, but it's definately shines and interesting light on Boll.

"It's better to have a gun and not need it, than to need a gun and not have it"

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Do us a favor, and never EVER watch a real extreme movie, ok?



"We're talking about pure evil"
Dr Loomis

"There's no evil. There's only flesh"
Pinhead

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to be a succes in anything means you actually did something everyone or alot of people liked, this is nothing but a piece of crap movie which should never have seen the light of day you can give it a thumbs up all you want lets see how many thumbs up you give this kinda trash when hollywood starts producing more and more crap year after year till they have destroyed the horror genre yes we'll all have a good laugh and remeber how morons who sit back and go EH IT WAS OK helped *beep* up the horror genre which was once striving.

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Great point, mider1985. You seem to know a lot about horror films and I wish Hollywood would listen to you. When I say "Hollywood," I'm referring specifically to Meshach Taylor.

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I think it is within human nature to applaud and be gratified by this of self destruction, all in the name of entertainment......remember the romans, and other so-called civilisations who regarded death as a form of entertainment, regardless of the, as we see it today, despicable means in which humans were killed or sacrificed.

However, in todays technological means of mass destruction, we glorify and applaud human destruction, killing and genocide if it suits our means.... namely this of economic power and domination. America, being the prime example of this power....aka Capitalism.

So, for certain people to complain at how vulgar, degrading and blood lusting certain movies are tends to reek of an element of hypocracy....think about it.

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babies being chucked against poles, skinned dogs and decomposing bodies! youve given me 3 reasons to watch it right there! why the *beep* does a slasher film need a message behind it? gimmie the horror now!

your opinion is the wrong one!

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just finished watching this after your wonderful recommendation and i enjoyed it and so did my girlfriend. you dont even see that baby being thrown at the pole, it cuts away at the last moment. i think youll find the baby decomposing was probably not real! is your problem that its a baby? cus adults being killed is acceptable? your obviously entitled to your opinion but its nowhere near as bad as i thought it would be reading some of the posts on here. good dark slasher film with a proper nasty ending that ph u cks hollywoods usual twee endings right up the ar se. 7 outa 10 from me.
i guess if i liked it i must be unhinged, well enough from me im off to skin some puppies.
your opinion is the wrong one!

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I don't know why I was attacked when I commented about this. I was the one that said we should stop fighting about it. All I was trying to say is not that it needs a message. I just, in MY opinion (which is what this forum is here for - our opinions) not a good film. Yes it sickened me which takes a lot to do. But no, it doesn't need a "message" but for God sake it needs a plot. This film's "plot" was spotty to say the least. The acting sucked and the scenes were long stretches of going nowhere. It reminded me of painfuly long and weak high school films.

I think for anyone who says that opinions like this aren't valid, and they just love to see films with torture, then I advise getting some porn snuff films or something that has no plot and is there just to get you nauseous.

I'm not saying I've seen it "all" but I've seen a sh*tload of horror/slashers because I like them. The ones I've enjoyed are ones that have a plot with a little tension, a story arc, character development, something that makes you wanna bite your nails. This film was one long painful bout of the director's diarrhea. He should stop film making and turn that money over to someone who knows what they're doing.

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