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Selfish Overacheevers


These teachers were out of control. Nothing like when I was in high school. The nervous history teacher grew on me. His character was pretty good and likable and I sympathyed with the the assistant principal and the heavy teacher who didn't care the kid was two seconds late.

The gym teacher and the guy who wanted to be teacher of the year. I hated them. Hated them oh so much. I think their characters were made annoying on porpose. I mean they seemed so so like they just tried too hard. And if you want to be teacher of the year, you don't tell your students.

Also, maybe things have changed, but all those teachers in their thirties seemed pretty un realistic. They were too young too be belivable.

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Teachers in their thirties are unrealistic? Too young?

You do know that, before they can be old teachers, they would have to start out as young teachers, right?

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What I mean is. When I was in high school 16 to 20 years ago there might of been like two teachers in their thirties. All the other teachers were older. You didnt have tons of young teachers like like in the movie. That just seemed out of place of place to me.

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shut the *beep* up








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I am a high school teacher and I am 23 years old. Most of my co-workers are in their 30s and 40s, with a small handful in their 20s and 50s - heavier on the end of the 20s. So, just because your school happened to be staffed with veteran teachers doesn't mean that all schools are.

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I'm a senior in high school, I have...actually, all of my teachers are under 35, so I found it pretty believeable.

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You have to have young teachers to become old teachers.

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I can't believe that no one said this. Um... When you were in high school EVERYBODY looked older than they were. High school kids have no concept of age. 30 might as well be 40. I assure you, as a 30-year-old high school teacher, I am in the company of a whole social studies department of 20s and 30s. Not a 40+ to be seen.

It's just a matter of perception.

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I'm a 30-year-old teacher and very few teachers are over 35, much less 40. I think there's a reason, though. We're seeing the older teachers almost literally die out. There is an 80-something-year-old teacher at my campus (she's small & spunky - not asleep at the wheel or anything), but everyone else is jumping ship as soon as they can. We keep getting our benefits whittled away, gaining responsibilities and losing sleep. (When I first started working, I got health care through the district at a steep monthly premium. When we switched to my husband's benefits through his job at a major wireless company, our ANNUAL premium was the same as the MONTHLY one through the school.)

Fewer people become teachers because, not only is it not a well-paid profession for the specialized training you have to get, the trade garners no respect. If you can go to college, get a four-year degree and get a job that starts out paying more than $36k, why would you, instead, take a job that pays less, requires continuous training and breeds such frustration?

You may see the teachers as "out of control", and I'll agree the "teacher of the year" guy was unlike teachers I know (about the TotY thing, not in the everyday classroom), but the kids were exactly right in Mr. Lowery's room - only, usually in those situations you have more than 25 kids like that in the class at once. The frustration, especially with unhelpful AP's and inconsistent disciplinary actions, piles up to *exactly* the level of Lowery's.

People see "Freedom Writers" or something, get inspired, get their teaching certification and expect to change lives. Sometimes you do get to someone, but getting to that day is like having to pull out all your own teeth before being able to taste food. :p

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I 100% agree with you and I'm not even a teacher (though I have thought about it). I'm glad this was a mockumentary because I felt sorry for the teachers that would have had to deal with all of those things. I have seen stuff like that also. And in addition to the unhelpful staff, the parents aren't much help either: ("My kid wouldn't do that. Well he respects me!") You see how the quick the woman was to blame Mr. Lowery's first year of teaching because her son didn't respect him instead of just talking to her son?

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I teach in Brooklyn NY. I'm in my second year and am 28. Here there was a huge push for younger teachers as most were retiring and people didn't want to teach.

As far as "overachieving" keep in mind that in most schools there is an INSANE amount of pressure from the administration to improve test scores on state tests, among other things.

The pe teacher in the movie actually had a great speech about student expectations that I think is spot on.

Oh, and if you feel bad for the teachers in the movie because of how the students act....man I have some stories that would make you go screaming for the hills from my first year. We literally had a student taken out in a straight jacket last year. This year started off with two kids in a closet in the basement. Oh, and I teach 7th grade, but most of the students are around 16.

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"Teachers in their thirties seemed pretty 'un realistic?' " You do realize that teachers are allowed to begin teaching right out of college, right?

How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when despite being an adult of, what, 32-38, you write like a 5th grader except the average 5th grader spells more accurately.

"Overacheevers?"

"Sympathyed?" (What does that even mean?)

"Porpose?"

I see you got the little "joke" that the people who made this film were trying to get by you--yes, they were made annoying on purpose. Holy hell. Your lack of reasoning skills aside, I would have at least expected punctuation in the correct places in your post, but by all means, comment on the schools since you are such a shining example of what came out of them. Sorry for the rant, but MY GOD...BarbaBRIGHT, you were misnamed.

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