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IF 1 MORE PERSON COMPLAINS ABOUT A BLK GUY BEIN THE MAIN CHARACTER IAM G


I mean how many ppl are gonna complain about a black guy being the main character of this movie i mean get over it seriously its not that big of a deal. i mean do u kno how many blacktinos and blackricans there are now a days? and if more ppl read the synopsis you would b more informed about the flim

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I don't think their problem is the guy being black. Their problem is the guy's not latino. Surely any latino knows we come in all colors.

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well its called acting. alot of actors have played different nationalities and ethnicities. so what if he's playing puerto rican. there are tons of black puerto ricans

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is not the color is the blood. is that better for ya'll because people arent getting it is not that hes black is that he isnt latino.he dont know a word in spanish how is he suppose to sing in spanish without it sounding bad he can take all the training in the world his style is RNB reggaeton is very drrerent from RNB.


reggaeton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxgS_SREaFs

notice how arcangel pronounces the words.. is in a puertorican accent reggaeton doesnt work without a heavy accent.especially if your singing it.

and omarions thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJbK3CPckYY

he sings like a black artist no offense but ive heard black people who dont know spanish try to speak it and they dont sound latino.they sound just the same as if any american spoke spanish.

omarionc ant play a reggaeton artist.Just doesnt work.But lets see who's right if he pulls it off kudos but i doubt it.Go see daddy yankees reggaeton movie



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Omarion said that his caracter is half black half Puertoricain.

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I agree with everyone else. The minute i seen that Omarion was going to play the lead role, i was pissed. Reggaeton is my favorite genre, so i would have liked to see a latino get the lead role. I dont care how well omarion ends up being, it just wont be the same

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dats so racism....obviously the director or producer PURPOSELY picked a black african american to play da damn part....so all yall who think it should've been a latino or wateva needs to shut up and get with it....the director didnt just say "oh there no more latinos to cast so hey lets pick da black guy Omarion" nooooooo they didnt...having omarion as the lead probably is suppose to capture a main purpose...so shut da hell up with all dat otha bs.....i do agree dat omarion will atract more people but dats not da only reason why they picked him... plus omarion in da movie kinda looks like he is 1/2 puerto rico.....yall act like no puerto rican neva ACTED in a movie as if he's 1/2 white

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1/2 black and 1/2 PR? Don't you mean he's 1/2 black PR and 1/2 American black? He's black.

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that is better coz PR is NOT A RACE. It's like saying I am an American does that mean i am white, black, asian, etc? It's a CULTURE.

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Good point Tony. I think some on this forum require a few more definitions.

Latino (Ethnicity) = A person of Latin American Descent.

Hispanic (Ethnicity) = A person, regardless of race, who is of Spanish culture or origin.

Puerto Rican (Nationality) = Puerto Rican can refer to anyone who was born in, or whose ancestors are from Puerto Rico.

Race = The divisions of the human species. These include the Mongoloid, Caucasoid, Negroid (including Cogoid and Capoid), and Australoid races. Due to racial mixing, the genetic and physiological differences are not always clear in individuals.

Spanish = (Language) or .... of or relating to or characteristic of Spain or the people of Spain.

Spaniard = a native or inhabitant of Spain.

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So if we're discussing supermodel Adriana Lima we can say.....

a) Her nationality is Brazilian.
b) Her ethnicity is Latino.
c) Her ethnicity is not Hispanic because Brazilians speak Portuguese, not spanish.
d) Her race is mixed because she's of African (Negroid), Amerindian (Mongoloid) and Swiss (Caucasoid) decent.

Latino is not a race it's an ethnicity. Hispanic is not a race it's also an ethnicity. Puerto Rican is not a race it's a nationality. Puerto Rico is comprised of people of many races. Not all Puerto Ricans are mixed. Many like myself are but quite a few aren't. And don't call us Spanish because Puerto Rico hasn't been a colony of Spain since the Spanish American War (1898). Puerto Ricans on the island are also American citizens. So there you have a neat list of definitions and a little history thrown in for good measure. Be sure to do a little reading over the weekend because there will be a pop quiz on monday. Class dismissed. lol ; )

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Why are so many complaining about the blacks in this movie? PR are black for the most part. PR and African Americans intermarry in great #'s. I live on the East Coast and ther isn't one PR girl that's not dating an African America.

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The premise of the story is that Omarion is a half-African American half-Puerto Rican kid in NYC... he doesn't know about his Puerto Rican side because his fam is still in the country, and I'm guessing he was probably living African American culture, which is why they chose a non-Afro Latino Black to play the role. People are complaining that he won't be able to speak Spanish properly... THAT MIGHT BE THE POINT. Homie grew up completely disconnected from that group.

Y'all really need to learn how to separate FICTION from REALITY. It's called ACTING... that means that an American can play a Brit can play a Lebanese can play a Dominican. Quit cryin'.

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Lol who dumb people can be huh?...Al Pacino was cuban in Scarface and rican in Carlitos Way and nobody complained...and now we got Omarion playin a rican and yall want to riot lol...IM BLACK AND IM FROM PR I STILL LIVIN IN PR AD THERES ALOT OF BLACK AND EVEN ASIAN LOOKIN RICANS SOOO FUUUUCKIN WHAT!!?!?!!

It doesnt matter the color of the actor the importan thin is can he act? NO is the movie gonna be great? NO...so ok black or white the result is the same...CRAP!!!!

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but pacino looks spanish and puerto rico ain't a country it's u.s terrotories that is why there r blacks.

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"but pacino looks spanish and puerto rico ain't a country it's u.s terrotories that is why there r blacks".

That's some of the dumbest sh!t i dun ever heard.

first off, So what if Pacino looks spanish? spanish doesnt equal puerto rican. Its just the language they speak.

secondly, take a history lesson before u say dumb sh!t like the last sentence u said. This will always remain a fact: There are more black people in Latin America than in the US. Puerto Rico is in the Carribean and there are a ton of Black people in the carribean (hello? jamaica, haiti?). That movie Amistad with the african slaves took place in Cuba.

man, u must be young.

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lol you pretty much got in............also ugh I know too many latinos that correlate only or mostly Spanish features with being Latino/hispanic. And say crap like they (black Americans) try to pass as Spanish (which is supposed to mean Latino) as if that'd be impossible.

What's more dangerous than sincere ignorance?

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I dont know why there is a problem with Omarion paying a half black half laino in the movie ppl saying he cant speak spanish thats why youre suppose to train for your role he could be taking spanish classes or something I know latinos that can barwly speak spanish properly latinos be in black movies so why it cant be vice at the end of the day he can pass for a black/latino i can see if he couldnt then I would say why is he in the movie the production team for the movie is latino they dont have a problem with his role in the movie so why yall got something to say about it how would ppl like if blacks started somw *beep* talking about they think latinos stole they music hiphop and called it reggaeton I think its appropiate for blacks to be in the movie because Reggaeton is black jamaican and latin culture combined in one art form

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first off, So what if Pacino looks spanish? spanish doesnt equal puerto rican. Its just the language they speak.

secondly, take a history lesson before u say dumb sh!t like the last sentence u said. This will always remain a fact: There are more black people in Latin America than in the US. Puerto Rico is in the Carribean and there are a ton of Black people in the carribean (hello? jamaica, haiti?). That movie Amistad with the african slaves took place in Cuba.


Nobody denies that there are black Puerto Ricans, but they are, in fact, a small minority. There more Puerto Ricans that look like Al Pacino than Omarion.

Let me give YOU a history lesson.

There was once a time when blacks were the mayority in Puerto Rico.After the black mayority in Haiti rebelled against the white masters and invaded the Dominican Republic, the spanish officials concluded that it was not a good idea to have black mayorities in its remaining colonies.

At the very least in Puerto Rico, a massive migration from European countries and Whites from Latin American that left because the Spanish Empire ended there and they were still loyal to the crown, took place during the 19th century. This created a white mayority in Puerto Rico composed of Spaniards, Mayorqians, French, German, Irish and many other groups.

It could be argued that Puerto Ricans are of brownish skin, but that evidences our Indian blood (which was determined that 4 out of 5 Puerto Ricans have)and the fact that most of the Spanish migration came from Andalucia and the Canary Islands, where people were not crystal white.

African heritage is appreciated through our music (Plena, Bomba) but it remains clear to this day that Blacks are indeed a minority and that their is little african blood in us.

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Your history lesson was flawed...

Yes, after the beginning of the 19th century, there was immigration influenced to make more "white citizens" on the island, but there was also a huge increase of slaves up until the abolition of slavery in 1873, and even then there were more free blacks in Puerto Rico than there were slaves...

"It could be argued that Puerto Ricans are of brownish skin, but that evidences our Indian blood (which was determined that 4 out of 5 Puerto Ricans have)and the fact that most of the Spanish migration came from Andalucia and the Canary Islands, where people were not crystal white. "-please show this evidence.

This is all I could find on a short google search "A recent study of Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) from 800 individuals found 61.1% as having Amerindian maternal mtDNA, 26.4% as having African maternal mtDNA, and 12.5% as having Caucasian maternal mtDNA.[22] Conversely, patrilineal input, as indicated by the Y chromosome, showed that 70% of all Puerto Rican males have inherited Y chromosome DNA from a male European ancestor, 20% have inherited Y chromosome DNA from a male African ancestor, and fewer than 10% have inherited Y chromosome DNA from a male Amerindian ancestor. In summary, the results suggest that the three largest components of the Puerto Rican genetic pool are Amerindian, African, and European."

This seems to indicate that there is a HUGE mix, and that African blood is very much in there.

It's amazing that people try and whiten up Puerto Ricans all the time. I've had people tell me that there was no such thing as a black Puerto Rican until I showed them pictures of Albizu Campos and Roberto Clemente...Despite what you would like to believe, A LOT of Black Puerto Ricans are running around state-side as well as on the Island, so this garbage has got to stop.


Julia de Burgos tried to set an example, but it looks like you missed out on that one.

Don't worry, you aren't alone. I've met many Puerto Ricans that think that they can't possibly be mixed with anything but maybe some "Native" blood... which is amazing considering that the "natives" were decimated very early on in Puerto Rican history. But, when asked to explain that, they don't seem interested in that topic of conversation any more.

I suggest you read a bit more before letting it be known how ignorant you are.

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Your history lesson was flawed...

Yes, after the beginning of the 19th century, there was immigration influenced to make more "white citizens" on the island, but there was also a huge increase of slaves up until the abolition of slavery in 1873, and even then there were more free blacks in Puerto Rico than there were slaves...

How can that be true when the slave trade started decreasing by the mid 19th Century? Especially after 1812 when Britain outlawed the slave trade. Spain itself abolished slave in the Penninsula in 1837. Even if its true, it does not disprove my point that there are more Europeans and Indians than Blacks from that period to the present.

"It could be argued that Puerto Ricans are of brownish skin, but that evidences our Indian blood (which was determined that 4 out of 5 Puerto Ricans have)and the fact that most of the Spanish migration came from Andalucia and the Canary Islands, where people were not crystal white. "-please show this evidence.

Ummmm...Penelope Cruz and Antonio Banderas? Besides its common knowledge. Southern regions of Spain have always been browner because of the moorish control of Spain for 700 years.

This is all I could find on a short google search "A recent study of Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) from 800 individuals found 61.1% as having Amerindian maternal mtDNA, 26.4% as having African maternal mtDNA, and 12.5% as having Caucasian maternal mtDNA.[22] Conversely, patrilineal input, as indicated by the Y chromosome, showed that 70% of all Puerto Rican males have inherited Y chromosome DNA from a male European ancestor, 20% have inherited Y chromosome DNA from a male African ancestor, and fewer than 10% have inherited Y chromosome DNA from a male Amerindian ancestor. In summary, the results suggest that the three largest components of the Puerto Rican genetic pool are Amerindian, African, and European."

This seems to indicate that there is a HUGE mix, and that African blood is very much in there.

I never said that African blood was not there, I'm saying that its a minority. You basically proved my point. The total of African blood does not amount to 27%. The European goes to 70% and the Indian is 60%

It's amazing that people try and whiten up Puerto Ricans all the time. I've had people tell me that there was no such thing as a black Puerto Rican until I showed them pictures of Albizu Campos and Roberto Clemente...Despite what you would like to believe, A LOT of Black Puerto Ricans are running around state-side as well as on the Island, so this garbage has got to stop.

Julia de Burgos tried to set an example, but it looks like you missed out on that one.

Don't worry, you aren't alone. I've met many Puerto Ricans that think that they can't possibly be mixed with anything but maybe some "Native" blood... which is amazing considering that the "natives" were decimated very early on in Puerto Rican history. But, when asked to explain that, they don't seem interested in that topic of conversation any more.

A scientific study was made that proved that 3 out of every 5 Puerto Ricans have indian blood. It was all over the news 2 years ago. The article YOU mentioned contradicts that last statement.

I suggest you read a bit more before letting it be known how ignorant you are.

Boy, you just contradicted yourself in that post. You just proved that African Blood in Puerto Rico makes a little bit more than a fourth of the population, which proves my point. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you misunderstood what I said and did not remember when I said: Nobody denies that there are black Puerto Ricans, but they are, in fact, a small minority. There more Puerto Ricans that look like Al Pacino than Omarion.

You did not contradict ANYTHING that I said. You hardly seem to be qualified to make that suggestion.

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Do you live in PR and if you do, where? Cupey, Guaynabo??

Blacks are not a minority in PR, since, for starters we don't have Blacks as a race since we are a Puerto Rican race. But if we take color into consideration, i.e. the phenotype, not it's genotype, there is a great number of non-white people. I hate using all this terms since they've been politically charged with meanings over the course of history. There is no brown, no white and no black, mostly because we are all mixed up with each other, and maybe your mom is whiter, and your dad is blacker and you were born brown, but your brother might be white and your daughter will be black!

About the mtDNA Study:

The main problem with the people affirming their native heritage is not the fact that they are being proud about their past, customs and traditions, but that they are being nostalgic about an era that does not exist. A couple of years ago, (about the same time that Martinez-Cruzado started his mtDNA research) there was a group of "Neo-Tainos" who tried to reclaim part of the archaeological sites on the Island. Their "native" appearance was their main evidence towards this ownership. Now, this study shows evidence of a series of haplogroups representative of the different Native groups in America (North, South and Central America). That vast majority of Indian DNA, unfortunately does not belong to the Tainos, it belongs to Mesoamericans. Now, why? Let's go back to a time where the Tainos were near extinction, if not almost completely gone. Although it was true that they feared slaves revolts (did you know the Spanish had a somewhat high percentage of white slaves too? *boggle*), they brought Indians to be slaves in the Antilles, specially PR and Cuba from Mesoamerica.

(BTW, I really have no interest in continuing this argument, although if given the opportunity I'll most probably rise to the occasion)

OK! Back to the movie!!

I think minorities in general get very mad if people are not being 100% politically correct. After reading that Omarion is half puerto rican (or latin) and half black, like his character I can understand why he was cast. Will he make for a believable role as a reggaeton artist? I don't know and I won't know until I'm either dragged to the theater to see this (no way I'm paying to see this because of the lack of orginality) or when it airs on TV.

In any case... to everyone complaining, let's try something... I have an idea for a movie. Fade in... A white girl, 17 years old, blonde leader of the cheer squad *turns valley girl voice on* She has this cute green VW beetle and then after a terrible tragedy she has to move and starts school in the ghetto. *turns valley girl voice off*

Where are the blond girls complaining now about the dumb representation they always get? Well at least they are barely found in these boards. Why? Cause people need to lighten the *beep* up and accept that this is Hollywood. It's entertainment. You don't like it, don't support it. Don't pop a vein, remember to breathe!

Oh and there's also almost no complaints about the ghetto stereotypes since in a dualistic simplified version they portray the ghettos as the good side, and the white life of the blond as the bad side that needs to be reconciled with the ghetto and accept that we are all EQUALS! Which in my opinion is *beep* Although race, color, sex or whatever trait you wish to use, does not make you superior, your actions can.



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Do you live in PR and if you do, where? Cupey, Guaynabo??

Blacks are not a minority in PR, since, for starters we don't have Blacks as a race since we are a Puerto Rican race. But if we take color into consideration, i.e. the phenotype, not it's genotype, there is a great number of non-white people. I hate using all this terms since they've been politically charged with meanings over the course of history. There is no brown, no white and no black, mostly because we are all mixed up with each other, and maybe your mom is whiter, and your dad is blacker and you were born brown, but your brother might be white and your daughter will be black!

About the mtDNA Study:

The main problem with the people affirming their native heritage is not the fact that they are being proud about their past, customs and traditions, but that they are being nostalgic about an era that does not exist. A couple of years ago, (about the same time that Martinez-Cruzado started his mtDNA research) there was a group of "Neo-Tainos" who tried to reclaim part of the archaeological sites on the Island. Their "native" appearance was their main evidence towards this ownership. Now, this study shows evidence of a series of haplogroups representative of the different Native groups in America (North, South and Central America). That vast majority of Indian DNA, unfortunately does not belong to the Tainos, it belongs to Mesoamericans. Now, why? Let's go back to a time where the Tainos were near extinction, if not almost completely gone. Although it was true that they feared slaves revolts (did you know the Spanish had a somewhat high percentage of white slaves too? *boggle*), they brought Indians to be slaves in the Antilles, specially PR and Cuba from Mesoamerica.

(BTW, I really have no interest in continuing this argument, although if given the opportunity I'll most probably rise to the occasion)


Where I live doesnt concern anybody. I've been to every corner of the Island. From Fajardo to Mayaguez. You may find White people, tan people and Indian people. Blacks, per say, are a minority. Puerto Ricans do distinguish between race. It is there whenever we take a census, in which a mayority say they are white.

I'm really not counting those crazy people that believe themselves to be real indians. Even if your are right, it does not change that Puerto Ricans are mostly European and Indian. More importantly, how does it change the fact, that blacks are a minority in Puerto Rico? They are even, unfortunately, segregated in places like Loiza.

Lets take the reggeaton artist themselves, the only one that is actually black is Tego Calderon. Daddy Yankee and Calle 13 are white. Wisin y Yandel are tan inclining towards white. Hector el Father also. Rakim y Ken-y, have regular latino tan, but, again, alot of European features. So does Arcangel. Zion is Indian, but Lennox is black. Alexis y Fido are white. Delaghetto is white with Indian features. Jowell is white, Randy is mulatto. Don Omar has an interesting mix of indian and black.

The reason I brought the reggeaton singers is not so much because of the movie in itself, but because they represent, at best, the racial configuration in the poorest areas in PR.

These forums are meant to debate. If you dont want to argue about a subject then feel free not to post anything. But if you post something, it is to be expected that someone will reply

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Addressing the topic why some Puerto Ricans are upset Omarion is the lead actor in this film. The simple answer is that we like to see roles about Puerto Ricans being played by Puerto Ricans. Considering the fact that there are only a handful of Puerto Rican actors in Hollywood it’s nice to see a familiar face on the screen every now and then. Let’s face it, there aren’t many films being made about latino’s and just as few television shows. Also, since Reggaeton is a Puerto Rican art form it only makes sense to have one of our own, regardless of color, play the lead.

Now to address a few comments.

Bratprincess wrote: “That vast majority of Indian DNA, unfortunately does not belong to the Tainos, it belongs to Mesoamericans. Now, why? Let's go back to a time where the Tainos were near extinction, if not almost completely gone. Although it was true that they feared slaves revolts (did you know the Spanish had a somewhat high percentage of white slaves too? *boggle*), they brought Indians to be slaves in the Antilles, specially PR and Cuba from Mesoamerica.”

Apparently you have not been keeping up with the studies. Here’s some more information from the latest studies.

“DNA studies show that the genetic contribution of the Taino to that region continues, and the mitochondrial DNA studies of the Taino are said to show relationships to the Northern Indigenous Nations, such as Inuit (Eskimo) and others.”

So that disputes the former theory that Mesoamericans were introduced into the Puerto Rican population and that it accounts for the Amerindian DNA contributions to the population. You should also know that Taino’s or Arawakan people were found to live as far north as Florida. So traffic between North America and Puerto Rico among the indigenous population is an undisputable fact.

Now to address another comment.

Gily34 wrote: “I live on the East Coast and ther isn't one PR girl that's not dating an African America.”

I’m Puerto Rican and live in NYC. Are you trying to tell me that every Puerto Rican girl is dating an African American? That’s odd. I could have sworn that all of my cousins and nieces were with Puerto Ricans. I must ask them if they consider themselves to be African American. Now I’m not disputing that some of our people are dating each other but let’s not exaggerate. Even if they were all dating each other it has no bearing on this conversation.

Now to address this last comment.

Boricanator wrote: Where I live doesnt concern anybody. I've been to every corner of the Island. From Fajardo to Mayaguez. You may find White people, tan people and Indian people. Blacks, per say, are a minority. Puerto Ricans do distinguish between race. It is there whenever we take a census, in which a mayority say they are white.”

Brown skinned African American looking Puerto Ricans are a minority on the island. I agree. Don’t take our word for it. Google Puerto Rico parades, festivals, ball games, etc. for pics and look at crowd shots. I’m not speaking of the PR parade in New York because it’s not an accurate representation of the people on the island. Most people on the island mixed on the light side. We don’t adopt the one drop rule on the island either. As far as that census, Puerto Ricans don’t often speak openly about race on the island. You have people who are of pure European blood who chose white and you also have some biracial & triracial people mixed on the white side who checked the box as well. Also, Puerto Rico never closed it’s borders and continues to get immigrants from around the world. We have Asians, Arabs, Jews, Europeans, Latin Americans, Dominicans, Cubans etc. etc. who have migrated to Puerto Rico and who’s children are 100% as Puerto Rican as any of us. Also, Latino is not a race it’s an ethnic label. We are multi-racial but we’re not all mixed. Just the lucky one’s. ;)

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yes reggaeton is a pr artform but pr culture and various music and dances evolved from black music and culture just like reggaeton and by the way reggaeton was originated in panama not pr

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Traditional Puerto Rican music is a blend of Spanish, Taino and African influences. It's reflected in the instruments played. Guitar (Spain), Maraccas & guiro (Taino) and drums (African). All are important contributions to the overall flavor of traditional Puerto Rican music.

As far as Reggaeton, it is not Panamanian in origin. That's a common misconception. But it's easier to understand once one realizes that Spanish Reggae or DanceHall to be exact, is not Reggaeton. What came out of Panama was usually Jamaican music translated into the Spanish language and sung with a Spanish version of the Jamaican patoi. That's what is known as Spanish Reggae. It did inspire many Puerto Ricans to start recording their own versions of Spanish Reggae. It was hugely popular in the island during the 90's. But modern day Reggaeton is a wide variety of musical genre's that borrows from many traditions. It can be sung like pop, R&B, ballads or rapped like Hip-Hop. The music may contain influences from Hip-Hop, Salsa, Bachata, Merengue, traditional island or other latin inspired rythms. The one important element that binds these different styles together is the dancehall drumb beat better known as the dembow. If you remove that one element it ceases to be Reggaeton. And believe me, what's left sounds nothing like Spanish Reggae. Conversely, if you remove the background music of Spanish Reggae one will still hear the Spanish version of the Jamaican Patoi. The Jamaican/Panamanian influences still remain. That is the monumental difference between Spanish Reggae and Reggaeton. Two separate and distinct genre's. The former did have it's roots in Panama, while the latter is a Puerto Rican invention formerly known as "Underground".

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Look, you wouldn't get the point because you're not from Puerto Rico, aquí se respeta o se te espeta. We want our stuff to be a certain way and no one can tell us otherwise, this isn't a negotiation, Omarion is not good for the role, end of argument.

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Oh, I wouldn't get the point because I'm Puerto Rican, and obviously know more about my history than you do?

Thanks for pointing that one out.

I'm sure by "we" you are talking about various ignorant closet racists, and I'm fine with that, but when it comes to ACTUAL Puerto Ricans, whether they be from the Island or from New York, where I am from, you've got to cut the BS, already.

Omarion is as good as any Italian/Greek/Jew/Arab that would play the role, so stop it with the BS already.

You've been called out, and you obviously don't have any real facts to back your racist ideas, so let it be known that not ALL Puerto Ricans share your brand of BS.

Your name fits.

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My father is puerto rican and my mom is black. My mom has naturally red hair and freckles and is often told she looks like a slightly darker version of Bree from desperate housevives(bree's kind of funny looking so thats not a compliment to me) my point is I'm dark-that comes from my DAD not my mom. African blood is very strong in PR.

Anyway, blacks dont mind llatinos playing black so how DARE you notreturn the favor?

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"but pacino looks spanish and puerto rico ain't a country it's u.s terrotories that is why there r blacks".

That's some of the dumbest sh!t i dun ever heard.

first off, So what if Pacino looks spanish? spanish doesnt equal puerto rican. Its just the language they speak.

secondly, take a history lesson before u say dumb sh!t like the last sentence u said. This will always remain a fact: There are more black people in Latin America than in the US. Puerto Rico is in the Carribean and there are a ton of Black people in the carribean (hello? jamaica, haiti?). That movie Amistad with the african slaves took place in Cuba.

man, u must be young.



Thanks for trying to educate the masses.

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nkemp3:

Thanks for trying to educate the masses.


lmao, you should read my last post. After that, I seriously doubt he is qualified to educate anybody.

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If they could make more money they'd do it.

If they made more cash with a story about an authentic Puerto Rican reggaeton superstar, played by a Puerto Rican, they would do it. Heck, a Spanish-language film released in America (well it might be some Spanglish).

But where's the star to play that? It makes sense to make movies AROUND Omarion at this point, like Elvis. And reggaeton is popular but not in too many movies, so adapt to that and make a FICTIONAL fluff movie with shiny effects and hot bodies.

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I'm sorry, but... what? The reason there are blacks in Puerto Rico is because it's a US Territory?? Where'd you get your history lessons?

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So.....because the Puerto Rico is a Territory, then there are black people in Puerto Rico. OH MY GOD! That makes a lot of sense to me! I wonder if it was like that with Hawaii too when it was a territory. Or Alaska.....

That makes no sense whatso-effing-ever. So please do yourself a favor and at least go do a little bit of research before posting about Puerto Rico.

And for those of you that can't read normal talk/type: Plz do urself a fava an do reserch on Rico.

and the main character is allowed to be half black, damn it. People move and have interracial relations *gasp* yes it can happen.

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Yeah, but Al Pacino was Italian. Come on now. Italians can play any role. LOL. But I like your point. The movie will be TOTAL CRAP!

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Alba played a blacktino for Honey lol
and she is not biracial in that way.

a lot of people complained about that too




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Really? I never heard of ppl complaining about Jessica Alba . But I must say poor omarion though he's being attacked for a role he took on and tried his best with (I'm not puerto rican I'm costa rican) but I'm shocked at how much this is making ppl angry on the boards. A lot of 3rd generation ricans can't even speak spanish to save their lives. Just wondering if a white guy played the role would there be this much anger and he's not puerto rican point blank blah blah? Besides if it weren't for african culture the music you dance to wouldn't sound nothing like how it does. If you want to represent your culture what are you accomplishing on imdb debating on a movie that is already finished, go out grab a cam and make your own film and pretend that there aren't any latinos with deep brown skin. FIN

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wondering if a white guy played the role would there be this much anger and he's not puerto rican point blank blah blah?


There has been before. Many Puertor Ricans complained that the characters in West Side Story where not Puerto Rican.

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Well, considering Omarion is not latin in any possible way, it would make complete sense to hire a latin (preferably Puerto Rican actor to make the role more believable... I mean, I'm pretty sure it's not that hard for the casting directors!) actor for the role. But in this world full of star power and big names, it also makes complete sense to pop Omarion in the film as the lead! lol Am I being racist for pointing this out? I don't think so. I'm just seeing it from the business standpoint: Omarion will sell tickets! That's a proven fact. Plus, I don't think this movie requires much more skill than basic acting skills and lots and LOTS of dancing abilities (which he has I will add) so it's not a film that pretends to be more than it is. It's a pretty movie about music and dance routines with a story that tries to keep the different dance sequences together.

Any actor can play any role (provided they have the skills and ability to) but why not give the opportunity to an ACTOR which can do something interesting with the role. Omarion is not an actor. And I hate how singers dance between both things: I think that's prostitution of the art. You're just acting to make money or keep a presence in the public eye. Where's the artistic value? Where's the challenge? Where is the drive to make a quality product from the studios by hiring big names instead of good actors that don't necessarily are big names? Think about it. You might love Omarion and want to see him 24/7 but there's a lot of people out there that could've done an even better job than he did on the role and maybe make the movie a different thing entirely!

PS. I am puertorican and live on the island and am also a stage actor in case anyone attacks me about it lol

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Kind82,

You brought back the bad memoiries I had of Jessica Alba. Until you brought it up, I had forgiven Jessica for doing Honey. What a piece of crap. A nice Mexican/American girl with a black guy.

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The problem is a piece of crap like Jennifer "no-talent" Lopez producing anything!

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lol....J-Ho....

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UGH I cant believe a BLACK guy is the lead character, cuz that's all i can think about. it really keeps me up at night.
the only thing im upset about is that they are making more of these *beep* "diverse" teen dance movies.

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first of all they picked him because they thought that he was a b"bankable" actor who could help this rican explotation film make money. They are not going to put their hard earned "establidhment" dollars into making an unproven 'rican' actor. This is not jimmy smitz because they can't afford him. so they get a black actor who can't act latino and hope that you won't notice.
It won't make a lot of money. it's not brokeback latino rap. of course they didn't or couldn't scam name artists into doing a film for free. Brokeback did that. brokeback will be in court for years because of it too!!

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I agree with the explotation, because that is just it. It's simply a story. It doesn't show the origins or how exactly reggaeton came to be, which is what any first reggaeton movie should be about. The whole idea that it was someone from the Bronx whether latino or black is ridiculous. Why? Because this movie pays no tribute to the pioneers of such genre who are puertoricans that were born and raised in puertorico. Instead they cast an 'outsider' who in truth would never had given reggaeton the time of the day if it weren't mainstream like MTV, Echo, Sean John, etc.

Just the fact that the movie is produced by "J-Lo", a real embarrasment to me as a puertorican, alerts me not to watch it. This movie is dumb in general and it doesn't matter who they cast as the protaganist.

In conclusion, I just find it funny we have people who claim to be half this, half that, Latinos claiming they should had never casted a black guy, that they don't understand that there is a BIG cultural and pride difference between a puertorican born and raised in puertorico to a Latino who probably cannot write or speak a proper sentence in Spanish in the Bronx.

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Its marketing strategy.They want to skew to both the Latin audience,and the black audience.Thats why he has to go to PR.Thats why he has gangsters chasing him.Thats why he's into Reggaeton.Its You Got Served.Its ATL,Its Honey.Its 8 Mile.Its just more cynical product aimed to take money out of your wallet.It doesnt give a crap about the culture,the music,or the people.

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WHAT?! lol

What's more dangerous than sincere ignorance?

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