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This is a Christian tv-movie


Soon after I started watching this film I had to re-check to make sure it's the same movie that got the rating of eight (8) from the imdb-voters – it was so bad. I felt like watching an episode of Touched by an Angel from the 90's.

But as a Christian, I liked the simple story.

From early on I picked up on John Oldman's furtive glances that were a little too obvious at times..

When John started claiming that he was Jesus my interpretation of the story began to form. It seems the character of Dan had the same suspicion; there is a scene where Dan holds in his hands what seems to be a copy of the Holy Bible, opened up at the middle part, and he asks John: "Do you have a destination in life?", to which John does not answer, and then Dan says: "Never mind, I won't ask.".

At the middle part of the Bible is the Book of Job where Lord asks Satan: "Where have you come from?", and Satan answers: "From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it."

Dan is playing with the thought of John Oldman being Satan, but he can't be sure – Dan is some sort of agnostic after all. I had the same intuition from early on; at this point I thought that if the story is going to end with someone dying of natural causes, then it is certain that John is Satan who has come to collect his own. We now know, of course, that this is what happened at the end to Will, around whom the story had begun to revolve. Will had just lost his wife and was in a fragile state psychologically and spiritually.

There was a hint that Art, too, was toying with the idea of John being Satan when he asked: "Wouldn't Sacre du Printemps be more appropriate?" when John put Beethoven's symphony to play in the background. Stravinsky's Sacre du Printemps is widely considered satanic in theme, and Art, being a sophisticated man, would know that.

In front of the fireplace, lights switched off, John not only denies the creation, but also said something like: "..I never spoke of the divine, except for human goodness on earth".

Humans are not good, humans are wicked. But the listeners are mesmerized by John's story. Harry actually says to John at some point: "Here we are, trapped by your story..".

Next there is John and Edith's "argument" in which Edith finally asks timidly: "Were you (Jesus)?" and John says: "If I said no would you ever be sure?". Edith breaks into tears as her faith crumbles. It turned out her faith was shallow to begin with – she quickly believed Satan's lies (literally). At this moment lights are suddenly switched on by Will, and we are shown John's horrified facial expression.

Near the end of the movie, when John is talking with Sandy in front of the house John raises his voice as he mentions his past name from 60 years back; this leads to Will being shocked and ultimately getting a heart attack and dying. John wanted Will to hear the name "John Partie" (or however it's spelled).

There is a short scene where Dan is driving home and he stops by the side of the road when an ambulance is rushing down the road to John's house. He doesn't seem to be surprised by it – it's like it was something he expected. He searches the archaeological piece of stone from his front pocket and examines it, falling into deep thought.

John Oldman was Satan Lucifer, the father of lies. His name was a pun – not in the obvious way though, but as an antinome of Jesus Christ, who is called "the new man" in the Bible. Adam, the fallen man, whom Jesus actually called Satan, is called "the old man".

At the very end of the movie another antinomy of God is expressed when Sandy asks John: "You never saw your own child die?" to which John replies: "No." He switches off the lights from the house and leaves Sandy in the dark. Sandy decides to follow John.

An interesting movie undeniably.

Anyways, The Man from Earth must be the only Christian movie rated highly by the imdb users :D








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Anyways, The Man from Earth must be the only Christian movie rated highly by the imdb users :D

Highly rated movies with stories from the Bible (specifically, the New Testament):
Intolerance: Love's Struggle Throughout the Ages (1916)
The Ten Commandments (1956)
Ben-Hur (1959) & Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ (1925)
Il vangelo secondo Matteo (1964)

Highly rated movies about saints (not limited to Catholic ones):
La passion de Jeanne d'Arc (1928)
A Man for All Seasons (1966)
Andrey Rublyov (1966)

Highly rated movies otherwise related to Christianity (some of these may be debatable):
Faust: Eine deutsche Volkssage (1926)
It's a Wonderful Life (1946)
A Matter of Life and Death (1946)
Ordet (1955)
Det sjunde inseglet (1957)
Inherit the Wind (1960)
Rosemary's Baby (1968)
The Exorcist (1973)
Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975)
Life of Brian (1979)
Der Name der Rose (1986)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989)
The Green Mile (1999)
... and of course, any and all Christmas movies can technically be considered Christian movies.

Don't listen to the negative ones; their arguments are irrational.

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This is a very interesting interpretation.

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I found it amusing, while stupid and nonsensical. But what is even more amusing is the reaction from Christians. It is basically a Born-Again Christian TV movie. Jesus is real, the bible is real, Jesus is eternal, let's all just love each other... and boy oh boy, none of those teachers would hold down a job at any serious university outside the bible belt.

Basically it's the New Testament with a twist. How anybody could call this piece of manure "intellectual" is beyond me.

For the first 10-15 minutes, I kept thinking this is Encino Man with a twist, but no, it's much worse, because it takes itself seriously!

Why this is classified is beyond understanding. It is New Testament revisited, nothing more.

But certainly worth *beep* and giggles. The biologist was truly a disgrace.

***So I've seen 4 movies/wk in theatre for a 1/4 century, call me crazy?**

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Thanks. Looked at in this way a lot of problems I had with some less than sensical aspects of the movie are resolved and I can enjoy it a bit more.

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I've seen a lot of misinterpretations/misrepresentations of this movie on this message board over the years, but this thread is about the most concentrated with them as I've ever seen here.

Or is the premise being promoted here really that Satan actually wins out in the end...in a Christian movie?

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Humans are not good, humans are wicked


Now who is playing Satan? ;)

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What do you mean?

Satan Lucifer is the father of lies. Jesus Christ is the truth, and Jesus said created human beings are wicked. Want evidence? Look at the moral state of humanity and the world.

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I just wanted to make a pun, please don't take offense. I was just shocked to see this as proof someone is a satanist. But apparently it's in the bible?

For me as an atheist and humanist, humans aren't wicked. Saying they are wicked is a mean to create the need for some supernatural solution to it, e.g. only God can save us. But it's culture that is wicked. We need better education, nurturing, culture and learning to overcome us acting wicked.

By saying "humans are wicked" you create the very mechanism by which this wickedness to continue (propaganda used by psychopaths who are super rich and/or powerful).

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Ok, no offense taken :)

But still, humans being wicked is a fact, and we must confess it, repent from it and live holy – by God's righteous will.

Yes, it's said many times in the Bible that humans are wicked. For example in Genesis 8 it is said very powerfully: "(God)said in his heart: 'Never again will I curse the ground because of humans, even though[a] every inclination of the human heart is evil from childhood."

And Jesus called human beings (even His disciples!) evil in Luke 11: "If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”

God created human beings in His image and gave us the freedom of choice. Man used it against God's righteous will and fell in sin. Humanity is fallen in sin. The just wages of sin is death and condemnation. God is perfectly just. But God loved us fallen humans so much that He gave His only begotten Son, Jesus, so that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.

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You're quite brainwashed by religious thoughts, but you can't escape it as that's all you know. (like every other brainwashed person) Think about all the acts humans have done out of kindness. The guy who invented the polio vaccine, who chose it to be free despite being offerred huge sums by corporations for the patents. Is that man wicked? Who created the thoughts "wicked", who defined it? Has nature carved the semantics in it's laws? Nope, just humans of the past.

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It is not impossible for wicked people to do something right. But very often the morally right choices are contaminated by wicked motives. Not always, though, but very often. But even if someone makes a morally right choice, it doesn't wipe away all those evil choices s/he has made also! Being morally good means being holy and righteous – without any sin, like Jesus. Created people are fallen in sin.

God was born a man Himself in the Son, Christ Jesus; in Him the glory of God was seen in human flesh. By the power of His eternal spirit Jesus Christ atoned for our sins on the cross of Golgatha and rose from the dead! Believe in Jesus as your Savior and Lord, and you'll receive the atonement of your sins in Him.

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i hate all people who think everybody is just like them. We are not all liek you , so fook off

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I don't think you know what the word evidence means.

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I don't find this movie particularly christian.

He does say in the movie that the interpretation of his actions was made by others and a cult formed around that, it was not him, trying to start a new religion.

The concept of the movie is what makes it interesting; Walk around for thousands of years, see so many places and people, historical events come and go etc.
And would you keep a plastic-pen the whole time, to prove your origins? ^^

Low-key and intelligent, nothing more, nothing less.

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The weirdest thing about this film is that there are people who watch it who think god actually exists.

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