Capman,
At the service in St. Louis that I work at, we do have standing orders for all of those drugs that you mentioned, except fentanyl because we don't carry it anymore. We only need on line med control for special circumstances ie: patient with pain that is on a pain management regimin. I do have to call for some repeats, and additional or abnormal doses. I can give morphine without asking, but only up to 4mg, so if the patient needs more, I have to ask. I am even expected to manage abd pain. You are correct about different states and standing orders. Most services in my area have standing orders for every first line intervention. DOPamine is considered a first line drug in suspected cardiogenic shock, so in that case it is covered under my standing orders starting at 5mcg, and titrate to effect. Versed for premedication for cardioversion, and also for post endotracheal intubation is covered. Ativan I can give for seizures up to 2mg, and also 2mg IM for chemical restraint - covered. Benadryl is a first line intervention for allergic reaction and anaphalaxis, I would hope that would be a standard standing order along with SQ epi. Phenergan is covered for N/V and anytime I give morphine or demerol. In this area, our hospitals are all very busy, and so are we. Most physicians would rather we just call and tell a RN what we were called for, what we found, and our progress treating the patient, then ETA. They don't want to take the time to talk to us if they don't have to. We also call for unconventional methods that are still kind of standard pratice, like Mag for a crashing asthmatic. Most docs would rather we just tube them though. I would never push drugs against med control either, and anyone that does would be investigated, as long as it was in the best interest of the patient, the punishment would be a slap on the wrist. Also, it is common practice to do what we have to do, then ask. Sometimes it is easier to beg for forgiveness. There are, however, services around here that have to ask for almost everything, those services all share the same medical control hospital, and that hospital doesn't beleive in EMS, they would rather we "just get them here." I didn't mean to cut down your education, I am sorry if I somehow offended you. Reguardless of national registry, we all have to take CEU classes. We all end up with the same knowlege, from CEUs, medical control, standing orders that are ever changing, but most of all from our experiences. I am glad to hear that you have been in the field for so long, burn out rates are climbing. So many people have no idea what they are getting into. The peole that do what thay want, and push what they want are know as cowboy medics. I have a different way of doing things. Around here, all I have to do to get orders is paint an accurate picture with my report, works 99% of the time.
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