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Couldn't make it through


I, like others I've seen post here, only made it through about 45 minutes of this film before I threw a different movie in. The frantic and chaotic pace that this film takes makes it almost like work to watch it. There wasn't a moment in the 45 minutes that I saw where I didn't think, "where is this going?" or "what the hell is going on?". I had to grab the dvd cover and read the back of it about 30 minutes through to try to get a sense of what I was watching, something I normally don't do. After I realized that the constant flashbacks, repeats, and other cinematic confusion was going to last for the entire movie, I finally decided to end my misery.

I understand this movie is supposed to be a dream/subconcious/hallucionagenic experience but I feel it could've been done with a lot less chaos. When seeing Anthony Hopkins directed this movie, I was intrigued but obviously very disappointed. There are going to be people who would criticize me for thumbs-downing a movie I haven't watched in entirety but to my defense, a movie shouldn't be so uncomfortable to watch that you need to turn it off.

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Right there with you. My wife and I made it through all of 23 annoying minutes of this rubbish. It's like some junior college film student's attempt to be deep and artsy. Nothing could have saved this film. One more jump cut and I would've smashed my TV. Poor David Lynch, to have to endure the comparisons!

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I paused the movie, and checked imdb to see if I was the only one who would rather go to the dentist than watch any more. It is paused at 5.58. Forever.

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I skipped many parts of the movie to see if it got different.
To my disappointement it doesn't. When I completely stopped the film I had my heart
running from the chaotic pace of the scenes.

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It's dropped to 5.1

Personally I think it deserves a NEGATIVE #

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That is an insult to Junior College film students; even they could do better than this crap. I maybe made it through 20 minutes before I had to threaten my boyfriend with violence if he didn't shut it off.

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agree completely. i watched about 15 minutes of absolute torture and then flicked through the rest. deleted it off my pc. what a waste of 700mb of storage.

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u all suck.

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25 minutes here. What the hell was Hopkins on?

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Movie didnt make sense, seems like they edited it wrong... Big waste of time watching it.

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I agree with anthonyhopkinsfan1.........

This movie was awesome, and not for the general viewer....

Also not good if you have a headache lol.....

I loved it...

It has some "Natural Born Killers" feel to it......

It's very fresh and mentally stimulating...something the 'general' viewer
can't appreciate.....

I'm no movie snob, heck "Twister" is in my top 5 alltime....

Bravo Sir Hopkins

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Just take a minute to think what all the money thrown at this film (and most Holly Wood turkeys) could have been better spent on - feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, humiliating politicians, etc....

"People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own soul" - C.G.Jung

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Innovative and original film. There are a few false notes and it can be a trying/challenging watch, but it's a shame so many viewers are unwilling to take that challenge. Count me among those who appreciated and enjoyed this film. To each his own!

Call it... friendo.

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I liked it also, but to each his/her own.

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I was surprised Anthony Hopkins came up with such an unusual film for his first ever writing effort. To then go on to direct and star in it is quite a challenge he set himself up to undertake. I'm sure he had to devote quite a lot of time with the editor to oversee the myriad of jump/reverse/mirrored cuts and special effects throughout. He definitely didn't play it safely with this one. I found the work startling, confusing, horrifying, humorous, and highly entertaining.

I've never been one to enjoy easily predictable fare, so this movie had me intrigued throughout.

I doubt this movie will go down in the history books as one of the all-time greats. However, it does press its audience's buttons to feel SOMEthing. This film avoided the mediocrity that results with an audience's indifference. Judging by the reviews here, I'm inclined to believe Mr. Hopkins is mostly satisfied with his film's reception.

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I stopped it with 25 minutes to go and just skipped to the ending.......still was just as bad. It did seem like a David Lynch copy cat and I swore off watching David Lynch movies long ago also. It was just one long drawn out psychosis that went nowhere.

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I swore off watching David Lynch movies long ago also.


this says it all.

Call it... friendo.

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Holy crap. I, unlike you, sat through the entire movie with my husband, thinking there HAS to be something spectacular at the end to justify the never ending *beep* But lo and behold, no justification was to be found. When the movie ended we looked at each other, both agreeing that THIS was 96 minutes of our lives we'll never get back...

OK, I kind of understand how some people might think that it is genius and mindblowing, but I strongly suspect that those people are the ones who consider themselves to be extremely artistic and won't admit that sometimes things just flat out suck ass! Sorry Tony, I expected more from you. And the same goes for Slater and Manheim.

I'd rather chew off my own foot that watch this again...

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To each his own. I watched it with 4 friends and they all loved it. I don't think any of us think of ourselves as too "extremely artistic" to admit when we don't like something.

Call it... friendo.

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i like wierd films. I like indie films. I like world cinema. To me subtitles are a bonus.

But this was unwatchable and a shocking insight into the mind of Mr Hopkins. Where I hoped to find clarity and insight, I found disorder and random ubsurdity.

I haven't switched a film off before the end since Inland Empire.

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Maybe experimental film isn't your forte. There's nothing wrong with that. But expecting the usual cinematic language and structure from something that clearly never purports to be that, is setting yourself up for confusion and disappointment. I found Slipstream incredibly watchable and anything but random (just a bit more quantum than linear) but I can understand it's not for everyone. Inland Empire is, in my opinion, a masterpiece of cinema and Lynch's finest film. Again, I can understand that to some people it seems random and slow and unbearable (if I'm not in the mood for it, I agree), but if in the right mindset, it's subtleties yield all manner of strange information and it truly does things with cinema that I don't think have ever been done before. Very bold, but incredibly challenging and massively dependent on your mood/mindset/consciousness while watching. Some people don't want to be forced to engage on such an intense level with a film, and that doesn't mean they are "stupid" or "don't get it" or whatever. It just means perhaps they prefer films that speak in a different cinematic language.

Basically, it comes down to the idea that in Inland Empire, nothing is objective or solid. It's very much up to you to discern what you think it's about (which isn't to say that it's meaningless, just that instead of choosing one definable meaning to project onto the audience, it wallows in deep pools of possible meaning, then aggressively refuses to tell you that one or another interpretation is right or wrong.) I like that kind of ambiguity. There's a power there if done correctly. Not everyone likes films that are so nebulous and in-your-face subjective. That's okay.

But to say this film (Slipstream) is just "meaningless" does not ring true to me. Hopkins is again putting the completely subjective nature of consciousness and the universe in our face (something that quantum physics confirms more and more each day.) Time after time in Slipstream, Hopkins sets up a definable reality and then as soon as you get used to it, pulls the rug out from under you and everything collapses into a different telescoped layer of reality, until eventually all of these realities flow freely between each other. And of course, it's a comment on filmmaking itself as well and how that artform relates to, molds itself from, and warps external "reality." It's an internal vs. external thing. The relationship between the measurer and the thing being measured breaking down. I could go more into this if anyone is interested in why I don't see this film as meaningless random drivel, but probably none of you wants a lecture on the nature of consciousness. Shout out to Alfred Korzybski though!

Call it... friendo.

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I watched about an hour of this film before I HAD to do anything else but continue watching it.

BUT, JetLagDMT totally pieced together what I was missing. And now I can understand the value of the film itself. Unfortunately, it is more convenient to read your post than to sit down and watch the movie. As it seems to be more of a classroom/student based educational film. Not saying it's horrible. But more of a film you watch to be taught or enlightened about the movie industry.

It's taxing to watch, and one definitely has to rethink what "entertains" ones self. As this film seems to be directly created for film students and people currently in the film industry. As I would assume Anthony Hopkins has had much contact with these kinds of people throughout his career. Maybe he wanted to send a message to them.

Slipstream SEEMS TO BE a film made by a person within the film industry for people within the film industry ( or interested in it )

And NOT a film for the masses "paying" to go the movies to be entertained.

*shrug* I still like Anthony though. =) He's a great actor.

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I respectfully disagree. I found it very entertaining and so did the 4 people who watched it with me. I've shown it to two more people since and both really liked it. None of us are film students. I can see why people wouldn't like this movie. It's the furthest thing in the world from typical entertainment, but for me it's quite engaging just in a different way. It's not an abject failure like Richard Kelly's recent "experimental" film Southland Tales, which had interesting concepts but failed to be very entertaining at all.

Did you guys not know that this was an experimental film when you went in? If you were expecting an Anthony Hopkins film more along the lines of his previous works, I can completely understand your disappointment. But I knew full-well before I saw this that it was an experimental film, so its atypical structure and execution didn't surprise me.

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I lasted about an hour into the film. Plainly and bluntly said, it sucks.

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It may have sucked for you, but fortunately, reality is completely subjective. I'm sure you're not really mistaking your opinion for objective truth though.

Call it... friendo.

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I'm basing my opinion on watching many, many films, foreign and domestic, including "art" films. This simply sucked! Period! An insult to the viewer and a great waste of money and time.

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I'm basing my opinion on having watched many, many films as well. Foreign, domestic, experimental, formulaic, new, old, short, epic etc.

I found this film to be very well done and anything but insulting to the viewer. Playful, original, inventive and a breath of fresh air. I explained in further detail on the previous page, if you care to read it, why I found this film to be interesting and entertaining.

Is my opinion 100% fact? No, it's just my opinion. Is your opinion 100% fact? No, it's just your opinion.

You know the saying I'm sure.

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JetLagDMT Don't feed the troll XD

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Call it... friendo.

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I did not enjoy this movie, but gave it the respect to watch it fully, I spent a lot of time shaking my head and I dont think I ever fully got into it

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Well put.

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I'll love the way films are shot nowadays and edited but this is just awful, I'm sure it's a half decent film but I'll never know, I can't get throught the first 30mins, I don't blame Anthony Hopkins I blame the editing it's just bad, chops, wipes , flashbacks every minute, yuck, Hopkins should have hired a film student rather than use an unskilled relative to edit it.

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Like many, I am a big fan of Avante-Garde movies - love Louis Bunuel. I enjoy stream of consciousness flicks - Waking Life is one of my all-time favorite movies. I really wanted to like this film, but wound up fast-forwarding around 45 minutes in (45 torturous minutes) and ultimately turned it off without finishing. Nice try Mr. Hopkins, you still have my admiration, but this effort failed.

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couldn't agree more, applaud the effort but this movie fails. It is a shame because lost in the effort are some great performances by Christain Slater, Jeffry Tambor, and others. I kept thinking, without the fancy editing, that there was some really good acting that wasn't getting through.

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I had to giggle while i was reading down the thread. I bought this movie because my sister told me it's suppose to be really good. I didn't check the timer but i stopped watching after the crew stepped into the diner scene. Someone said you shouldn't watch this with a headache, I totally agree. I got queazy a few minutes in.. thanks to others opinions, i'll try again down the road.

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Someone said you shouldn't watch this with a headache.


Indeed, it is quite torturous with a headache.. but I am not quite sure if I watched it WITH a headache.. or the movie CAUSED the headache. So many flashes, and cuts and so much choppiness.

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Im watching this monstrosity now. I'm 11 min in and it's going off! To all the people who enjoyed the film...kudos to you! But my opinion is that it's a nosensical mess. For whatever attempts to make it artsy or dramatic.. there is so much craziness going on in the first few min that it makes you completely lost! I think that would be ok if the movie started out where you could at least sink into the storyline and the flashbacks, dreams or whatever it's supposed to be start happening. It's really like coming in on the middle of a movie that's already started.

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I think the people that enjoyed this film were on some kind of drug, to make it cool. Without some mushrooms or acid, it's pointless. I wanted to turn it off the entire time but I'm a Hopkins fan and wanted to give him a chance. Now I wonder what drugs he was on. It really should not have been shot like a bad music video. The music he composed for Slipstream wasn't as bad as the rest of the movie.

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I'd say this film would make perfect sense if someone were smoking pot, because everything would slow down. Actually, it would probably freak them out. As for me, I was totally sober watching this, and I found it a real challenged – but I made it through.

There are actually a few moments of inspiration here, wrapped around quick edits and pretentious dialogue. The bits with Kevin McCarthy (R.I.P.) and the fake Dolly Parton were fairly inspired. As for the rest of it: Meh.

This film supports the argument that actors should not direct.

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